I'm not cut out to be a geologist

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23 Jan 2008, 11:36 pm

I'm not cut out to be a geologist. My calculus instructor is just as incompetent as my chemistry professor was last year. I went in over my head thinking I could major in geology. All I cared about was how much money they were making, and their job security, and how making that much money would be pleasing to NT women, so I wouldn't have to limit my dating pool to other Aspies.

The worst part about it was that in my nearly 4 years on WP, I had always advised people to be themselves. Now I've let everyone down.


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23 Jan 2008, 11:59 pm

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24 Jan 2008, 1:31 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
I'm not cut out to be a geologist. My calculus instructor is just as incompetent as my chemistry professor was last year. I went in over my head thinking I could major in geology. All I cared about was how much money they were making, and their job security, and how making that much money would be pleasing to NT women, so I wouldn't have to limit my dating pool to other Aspies.

The worst part about it was that in my nearly 4 years on WP, I had always advised people to be themselves. Now I've let everyone down.


Geology is a hard field to get a job in(in my opinion). There are not many job openings that I saw in Geology on www.Careerbuilder.com which means lots of competition in interviews for the small number of entry-level jobs available.

My quirk is that I would have a lot of trouble finding an entry-level job if it was not a large field with a lot of openings. My cousin got a job as an airline pilot being picked from 400 other applicants.

Believe me, not in my wildest dreams could I out-compete 400 other applicants. My quirk is that the careers most friendly to me are those with a large number of openings.

I would not do good in those jobs with intense competition because by default those with good interviewing skills have an automatic advantage regardless of whether those individuals are really qualified. And I have a feeling I'm not the only one with this problem on Wrong Planet

Switch over to accounting. It has a much larger field of openings than a geologist and you will have a much easier time networking and starting off getting an entry-level position and being able to move forward. And yes, the money is there. Hope this helps


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24 Jan 2008, 3:39 am

No-one's "cut out" for anything, Tim. You have to develop yourself, to fit with the job you want.



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24 Jan 2008, 6:05 am

I heard on the Occupational Outlook Handbook that geologists were one of the fastest-growing occupations in the U.S.


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24 Jan 2008, 6:34 am

Well, I think you gotta do what you enjoy. The job security and pay are moot if the career isn't truly for you, but are you considering a change in major strictly because of a professor you don't like? Of course, if you decide geology isn't for you, you still have plenty of time to change your major, you've just started your second semester after all. Hell, many students don't even declare their major until their sophomore year. Try not to be so rigidly career-oriented with an endgame in mind; take a wide selection of courses and experiment, see what you like.

You didn't let anyone down, your were just trying to be practical.



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24 Jan 2008, 7:46 am

i would be a geologist because i liked rocks............

what do you like, tim?


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24 Jan 2008, 9:21 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
I heard on the Occupational Outlook Handbook that geologists were one of the fastest-growing occupations in the U.S.


Geologists are not among the fastest growing occupations in the U.S. but they are predicted to grow much faster than average. So yes there are excellent job opportunities but there is a string attached:

--Although employment growth will vary by industry, overall employment of geoscientists is expected to grow much faster than the average for all occupations--

Graduates with a master’s degree can expect excellent job opportunities; very few geoscientist jobs are available to bachelor’s degree holders.

Ph.D.s should face competition for basic research and college teaching jobs
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos288.htm

Charts showing fastest growing occupations and occupations with the largest numerical increases in jobs.
http://www.bls.gov/oco/oco2003.htm


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24 Jan 2008, 12:28 pm

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Well, I think you gotta do what you enjoy. The job security and pay are moot if the career isn't truly for you, but are you considering a change in major strictly because of a professor you don't like? Of course, if you decide geology isn't for you, you still have plenty of time to change your major, you've just started your second semester after all. Hell, many students don't even declare their major until their sophomore year. Try not to be so rigidly career-oriented with an endgame in mind; take a wide selection of courses and experiment, see what you like.

You didn't let anyone down, your were just trying to be practical.


I liked being a GIS technician, but the city I worked for didn't give me benefits, and I was still officially an intern, despite working there for 4 years.

I decided on geology because I would get to be outdoors, and it paid more than $50,000 a year. (starting salaries were over $70,000 last time I checked). Many NT women require that anyone they date make at least $50,000 a year.

GIS technicians/specialists only make about $45,000 a year, and I wouldn't meet any NT woman's income requirement, and I would have to permanently limit myself to other Aspies. And I am not within 50 miles of any Aspie women, therefore, none of them will want to date me.


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24 Jan 2008, 12:43 pm

I know nothing about relationships, but I think a woman worthy of marrying (NT or otherwise) would find you more appealing in a job at which you made less but enjoyed, then a job at which you made more but didn't like as much.

By the way, are you sure those numbers are right? 70,000 dollars seems highly unlikely for a bachelor's degree, especially in a scientific career.

Those figures are completely arbitrary, you're basically saying that all NT's are selfish (a lot of them are, but not all) and would only date you for the money. People are individuals, you can't just generalize. If this is the type of relationship that you have in mind, then you're better off single.



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24 Jan 2008, 3:12 pm

I'm trying to do what I want to do. I just want to get out of school (and this town) very quickly.


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24 Jan 2008, 3:38 pm

My dad is an oilfield Geologist. He spent a good part of the 80's and 90's barely employed due to low oil prices.


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24 Jan 2008, 7:28 pm

This was from the occupational outlook handbook:

According to the National Association of Colleges and Employers, beginning salary offers in July 2007 for graduates with bachelor’s degrees in geology and related sciences averaged $40,786 a year.

The median average for geologists though is $72,000/year.

I think people with bachelor's degrees in Geology may start out mud-logging if you go into oil-field geology


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24 Jan 2008, 7:43 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
Phagocyte wrote:
Well, I think you gotta do what you enjoy. The job security and pay are moot if the career isn't truly for you, but are you considering a change in major strictly because of a professor you don't like? Of course, if you decide geology isn't for you, you still have plenty of time to change your major, you've just started your second semester after all. Hell, many students don't even declare their major until their sophomore year. Try not to be so rigidly career-oriented with an endgame in mind; take a wide selection of courses and experiment, see what you like.

You didn't let anyone down, your were just trying to be practical.


I liked being a GIS technician, but the city I worked for didn't give me benefits, and I was still officially an intern, despite working there for 4 years.

I decided on geology because I would get to be outdoors, and it paid more than $50,000 a year. (starting salaries were over $70,000 last time I checked). Many NT women require that anyone they date make at least $50,000 a year.

GIS technicians/specialists only make about $45,000 a year, and I wouldn't meet any NT woman's income requirement, and I would have to permanently limit myself to other Aspies. And I am not within 50 miles of any Aspie women, therefore, none of them will want to date me.


You wouldn't want someone like that as your girlfriend or your marriage partner. Her concern will revolve around rubbing elbows with the "in-crowd" and you can bet that if you cannot "keep up" with them she will moan and complain about it every chance she gets. That would be the worst kind of marriage or relationship an Aspie could be in.


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24 Jan 2008, 8:44 pm

Yet, finding a like-minded female Aspie is nearly impossible.


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24 Jan 2008, 8:52 pm

I think we all have doubts like this, but no matter what happens, with a bachelor's degree, you'll make a lot more money no matter WHAT you choose to do. There's nothing that says you won't get a job in the Geology field, but if you decide you don't like it, it's not the end of the world.

I am in a program I don't know if I'll ever use either, but I know with a degree I will have many more jobs open to me, and can make a higher wage!

Make sure you pick your job for your own happiness, not to attract women.