cures...will we all be wiped out?

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Hmmmm. Free laptops, there is an idea I love. I saved for over a year for mine, but still could only get a Dell Inspiron B130, a 100% crap entry level laptop. It is currently unusable, as the keyboard broke. I am waiting for a new one to come in, but the screen is full of dead pixels and it can handle almost no games that I own.

Wikipedia has a good article on the subject. The heyday of lobotomies was mostly the '50s and '60s. It's now rare.

Mutations also cause ADVANTAGEOUS mutations. In fact, the entire theory of evolution relies upon natural mutations, some are good, but most are not. I personally think we shouldn't interfere at all. I mean, considering we can't create a sustainable environment involving the most basic chemical manipulations of our world, and yet these people want us to take control of our own evolution? Yeah, that's totally gonna turn out great. Two hundred years from now, when everyone has "designer babies," I guarantee we're going to see the most absolutely bizarre health problems because we've messed with nature too much.

"Brave New World" + "1984" = our inevitable future

Very agreed. It already happens in animals we breed.

QFT

We're not being heard, but we think we're being heard. In my view. Maybe the Internet is an ingenious pacifier. It provides people a method of expression, and the impression they are talking to the world, and they act as if they are talking to the world often, but yet, they are not, and rarely do people use their real names, and often people use multiple alias names, and hide behind their computers as cowards.



Incredible statement. I wonder how common this belief is. Typing on an electronic computer, no people with whom to have even the most simple in-person interaction, the non-human computer discussion via typed words, the avoidance of almost everything human (the people themselves, voices, faces, eyes, movement, speech, sound, place, context, exchange). This alternative life should be improved, and I hope more is available at some time in the future rather than this non-human, solitary, cowardly, nameless, faceless existence. People here can't even use their real names, and rarely their real pictures.



Most important thing in YOUR life, sadly. Maybe Alex is making a fortune on this, or some day will be, along with his other dating and other websites. A true Internet business professional.



The Internet is not life. That is, it shouldn't be the main activity of one's life. Life can be more. Far more.

elan_i

Do you have a purpose other than p***ing on people?

If you want to keep picking on us, I'd suggest, that you leave.

Some comments by 'Inventor' in his last post above.

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I'm beginning to agree, it's gone beyond disagreement into something really personal. I just agreed with him on something, only to get called grandiose and elitist. So it's clearly not about simple disagreement, it's about not liking people. Which makes it both way over my head and very inappropriate for this forum. I can deal with people actually disagreeing with me, but when someone clearly disagrees with me because I am me, rather than because of what I have said, it gets really fishy.

If they do find a cure, I hope they don't force it on all of us, regardless of whether we actually want to be cured or not. I hope they only leave it for those who do want to be cured (yes, some people do want to be cured, and we should respect them just as much as those who don't.)

From a blogger on a rather different topic, nevertheless à propos here.

http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/10/911-truth-and-division-disinformation.html

Understanding the Psychology of Disruption

"While it is human to be upset or angry, those who disrupt intentionally are on a mission. They hope that moderators, those in control of forums, and everyone else will ignore their destructive behavior so that they can keep doing it. They want to fight—they do not want to have dialog. Their only purpose is to disrupt. Their chief weapons are divisive labels, accusations, straw-man arguments, controversial issues, and ad hominem.

"The ... movement is what its members make it to be. Either we can work together by critiquing each other in a civil and respectful manner, or we can fight with ourselves indefinitely.... It is clear that staying silent or ignoring the problem of disruption will not effectively provide a solution. While the approach of ignoring a problem allows it to continue successfully without interruption, there are ineffective and effective responses to counter disruption. Establishing guidelines of behavior and protocol for when they are broken could easily and effectively combat this ongoing issue and would only help facilitate the ... movement forward towards justice instead of endless and diversionary fighting.

"The agent provocateur is as virulent a form of disinformation that exists within the ... movement. Their ultimate purpose is to distract, discredit, and weaken the movement through the creation of false adversaries, disinformation, and disruption. As such, these false adversaries encourage activists to fight between themselves rather than challenging their intended opponent. Whether by intent or ego, those who emphasize attacking individuals rather than critiquing ideas in a respectful manner are working against the ... movement, not for it."

(emphasis in original)

I understand your answer translate to a resounding 'NO'.

That's the part that I always have trouble recognizing until it hits me in the face a few times (or rather, I notice but ignore until it's too late because I want to give people the benefit of the doubt). In this case, though, I finally was told what the problem is. This is almost without any doubt the same person who contacted my boss out of the blue with false information about me based on Internet gossip and was probably not happy when my boss said she had proof in many forms (including eyewitness accounts from family members) that said gossip was inaccurate, and likely even less happy when she declined to discuss my private information with hostile strangers. Had I known this was the same person, I would not have engaged with them at all. It's very telling to me that, despite having a respectable scientist who has spoken to my family tell him that she had proof various false information about me was indeed false, he came here and attempted to repeat that 'information' again as if it was true and as if he had no indication or knowledge that it was false. I haven't known whether to say something or not, but I'm now throwing this information out there as a caution that some of the things said on these threads have not been innocent misunderstandings at all, nor in good faith.

The Internet is the new frontier, life is much more than sniffing butts in a pack. Here you are judged solely by what is in your heart. To me, it has opened worlds of knowledge, for I live in a Banana Republic, where knowledge is not valued. Research, on line education, are freeing millions to grow and become.

The Internet gives me an International business platform, where I have been successful, selling to the world, while never making a single sale anywhere near me. I pick small markets, and then have that World Market. All of my supplies come from the Internet, they are not locally available, and cost three times as much when they are. Niether my suppliers or customers see me as Autistic.

From $500 Million in the mid 90's, Internet sales have doubled every year, and the growth rate is speeding up. It is the New Economy, the bright growth sector, and it leaves behind the socially dependant, who cannot live in a world of pure thought.

The Internet has linked me with like minded people worldwide, who I share a real connection with. Minds joining skills and talents, like time and space no longer exist. Bounderies of distance, nationality, vanish, when two connect through a keyboard.

The future is what can move through the Internet, none of the meatbag social skills can, they are filtered out. Some are dependant on eye contact, black slapping, hand shakes, sniffing, body language, and not having a record of their words.

Science, Research, Education, Economics, are moving rapidly to the Internet. Quality of human interaction is rising on the Internet, where your pool of potential good friends numbers over a billion, and is neatly broken into interest sectors. Here you can take the best of people, some totally, some for only one overlapping interest. Many with expert knowledge are only an email away, who will spend time answering a good question.

It takes a whole new skill set, a way of thinking, seeing in mental constructs, patterned thought, the intangible, where meatbag social skills become useless, and there are few naturals. Only the Autistic are born to this future.

One thought by Alex has lifted me into a world of minds I can deal with, those who share my wave length, my world vision, and together, we are developing our economy.

Here I have found my