Hatred Towards NTs

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I went the step further and actually climbed the tree. It was way safer up there.

Girls are worse, becaus eits more psychological bullying. Margaret Atwood addressed this in her novel, Cat’s-eye and there are a lot of non fiction books about the same thing. I moved through like 14 schools and so I never had bullying much because I was just invisible, and coming or going, but I did a bit where I knew people better but then I had the option of just moving. Girls often pretend to be nice as part of it, its well thought out - like a long sustained play leading to some kind of ultimate act of meanness, whereas guys are just outright mean, so you know where you stand and at least you can give a retort. That’s my experience. Girls are more nuanced about it. Then again, especially when you get to University, the guy professors can be very cruel and bully in a psychological way too, maybe because they have to keep up appearances the way girls often do, so they have to express their bullying in more inadvertent ways.

Many years ago, I went to film school (which led no where) but one of my instructors there said that one thing we must get used to is the tactics used by anyone in the industry which is like good cop bad cop, first they’re good and nice and give approval or make you feel special somehow to them so your vulnerable and dependent on it, then the next time they look at your work they change personality and are cold and hit you with something mean and degrading, it’s a psychological technique to get you to work like crazy for their approval. It wasn’t one he liked he said, but had to put up with as a screenwriter. I find this is kind of like bullying you get in university or from girls in school.

Another thought I have, more relevant maybe to this thread is that a lot of people, NT included, have a hatred for NT that they don’t know about, they come up with other words for it. Like a lot of people from the 60’s generation, I know from my parents friends for instance, keep to themselves and rant about the general “masses” as somehow evil in general, or lump them all together and call them, “Philistines” or “plebeians” or so “Pedestrian” etc… This happily alienates them from everybody.

Rob Thomas in a concert I saw on TV, I remember, said that everyone is weird in some way. Nobody is normal. I agree with that. Or at least:

“People are illogical, unreasonable, and self-centered.
Love them anyway.”

http://prayerfoundation.org/mother_tere ... anyway.htm

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1FdB5Adws78

Unfortunatley that's one thing that puts me off coming here abit is the "NT Bashing". Yeah ok some NTs can be horrible but some AS people could aswell, theres good and bad in everyone...

I have known only two truly rotten, despicable human beings in my life, and it's easy to see they're both on the spectrum.

I still don't hate NTs though. They have done nothing to me to deserve any rancor on my part, and so they don't. I love NTs, because they are talented, entertaining, and interesting people who I'm glad to know.

Funny. While you guys hid at recess, I was with a dozen NT friends, draining the honeysuckle bushes dry in May and June. Man, we had a blast

I would sometimes play with others during recess, but I never felt fully accepted, and there were some days where I'd just keep to myself because I didn't feel like pretending to be part of the group.

As for the main subject - I've already expressed my views in several recent threads. To sum it up, bashing all NT's based on what some of them did is unwarranted. I don't even really understand disliking people just because they talk about things you're not interested in. I don't care much about MTV or sports either, but who am I to judge people's interests when most people (including aspies) don't care about the things I'm interested in? You can't help what you are and aren't interested in.

Sometimes I hate NT-ism, but I don't hate NTs as a whole; as that'll be hating people out of ignorance and stereotyping. My twin bro, the rest of my family and some friends are NT, so I know very well that NTs are not at all 'bad' by default.

Yes their are a lot of neurotypicals that I hate George W Bush and Pat Robertson and lots of kids at school but I dont hate them all their are really nice ones if you have the patience to find them. Yes Its true male society is very vicious and it never stops and yes its really bad in the US and some Americans are dumb and lots of American teen males are in to the ghetho trends and act no better than common street gang members at least where I live a Poor factory city on the east coast in the most corrupt state in the union.Rhode Island is the worst state to live in if you have Aspergers Trust me.

I don't think so, Quebec is. Although, it's technically a Province, not a State.

didn't quebec technically declare its' independence as a sovereign state in a popular vote a whle ago?

OK, maybe I'm missing something. I read a lot of complaints about "NT bashing" but seldom do I see anything that looks like "NT bashing" to me. Describing specific unpleasant experiences with specific individuals does not come across as NT bashing to me. Nor does use of the term "NT" - sometimes it's convenient to have an abbreviation for people who are not on the spectrum.

Where should I look if I want to find examples of the NT bashing phenomenon being discussed? I'm thinking along the lines of certain threads or types of thread titles or something (not specific members).

They've been trying to since the early 70's but no... As yet, Quebec is still very much a Canadian province.

This resonates so well with me - I sat and read and wrote. All day every day, in my little corner where I was within sight of the staff room. People knew I was there and a few would come and ask me to join them occasionally, but I never did. Way too confusing and the girls were way too mean. Sometimes I'd hide in the bushes if it got too much, we didn't have any climable trees!

Though I made a few friends at High School and kinda hid behind them instead... they'd talk and chat all lunch, I'd sit 'in the group' but not really take part, just eat my sandwiches and try and look like I was involved.



Back to the OP... I love NTs. I can't understand the hatred either. My boyfriend is an NT, my family are (except for those that aren't, obviously), my parents are, my friends all are, my workmates are... they're all lovely and I love them to bits. Those that I have told about the AS have been so understanding and sweet about it, and those that haven't done that just don't really care, they just shrug and smile and say "Yeah well, you're still you aren't ya? So what's the big deal?". Bless them.

No offense but I never really got along with NTs; they are always so judgemental; and lack understanding of us Aspies. They are always so quick to punish and condemn others.

This isn't true of all of them.

I don't hate NTs, my GF is NT
I may have difficulties speaking and chit-chating with them, things like this, but I don't care if they are on the spectrum or not.

When I was a teenager, if I'd known what an NT was, I would have despised them... But then, I despised all children then... still not crazy about them today.

Today, it's difficult to hate someone just because they are what they are... If I'm going to put that much effort into an emotion for someone, I really ought to care about them more than just that.

I love my enemies.