Autistic (Asperger) Student had 900 child porn collection

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13 Feb 2008, 2:42 pm

"AN AUTISTIC student who amassed more than 900 child porn pictures has been spared jail because his condition meant he couldn't bear to throw anything away.

Jonathan Bristow, 21, of Church Lane, Bromley Common admitted eight counts of making indecent images of children and three of possessing indecent images of children.

Mr Bristow's Asperger's Syndrome means he acts on impulse and becomes obsessive about collecting things.

The barman, whose social life revolves around a medieval battle re-enactment society, had downloaded 922 indecent images."

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From the Bromley Times

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"The court was read part of a transcript of Bristow's police interview in which his father told officers his son regretted what he had done.

It read: "Two characteristics in common with people of that condition are that he is extremely impulsive and not likely to think ahead of what the possible ramifications might be. In retrospect he can see he has done something wrong.

"Jonathan, once he starts down any particular course, tends to very quickly become obsessed with that."

Judge Deborah Taylor jailed Bristow for four months but suspended the sentence for two years. She told him: 'This isn't a victimless crime. These children are often trafficked or forced into the making of these images and have to be protected from sexual exploitation."


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13 Feb 2008, 3:19 pm

He's still being punished, but what an awful stigma that sort of reporting could encourage against people with AS. The comments absolve people with AS of too much responsibility. Lots of people have to fight impulses, not just people with AS. Really sad that Aspergers/Autism was made so prominent here..seems totally inappropriate.



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13 Feb 2008, 3:19 pm

Hmm. He is a paedophile, but granted if he wasn't thinking about it and acted on impulse, then it was fair that he was spared jail.


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13 Feb 2008, 3:32 pm

So this basically says that with the "autism" excuse, one can get away with just about anything.


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13 Feb 2008, 3:55 pm

No one said he was a paedophile. They said he had a collection of child pornographic images. I could easily see myself amassing that with no sexual feelings whatsoever if I decided to collect pics with people dress in blue boots or something like that... the child porn images would appear but not because they were porn but because they met what to me at the time would be much more important, blue boots. (Note: I've never done this, just creating an example)

Paedophilia is a sexual dysfunction not an action.


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13 Feb 2008, 3:58 pm

Grimfaire wrote:
No one said he was a paedophile. They said he had a collection of child pornographic images. I could easily see myself amassing that with no sexual feelings whatsoever if I decided to collect pics with people dress in blue boots or something like that... the child porn images would appear but not because they were porn but because they met what to me at the time would be much more important, blue boots. (Note: I've never done this, just creating an example)

Paedophilia is a sexual dysfunction not an action.


pretty sure the whole porn thing doesn't have very many people wearing clothes...


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13 Feb 2008, 4:31 pm

alex wrote:
Grimfaire wrote:
No one said he was a paedophile. They said he had a collection of child pornographic images. I could easily see myself amassing that with no sexual feelings whatsoever if I decided to collect pics with people dress in blue boots or something like that... the child porn images would appear but not because they were porn but because they met what to me at the time would be much more important, blue boots. (Note: I've never done this, just creating an example)

Paedophilia is a sexual dysfunction not an action.


pretty sure the whole porn thing doesn't have very many people wearing clothes...


Then you just need to see more Porn. :) Complete nudity takes away half the fun in my opinion. Of course, I happen to prefer my porn to include only people who've made it past the age needed to drink and vote.


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13 Feb 2008, 4:53 pm

Even if his motivation wasn't sexual, it's against the law and it's wrong.
Even if it is an autistic obsession. Perhaps rapists have sexual obsessions, but they don't get off the hook because they were horny. If someone is a sadist they don't get off the hook for killing people because they got to urge to kill.

In general, I think that autism as an excuse is one of the greatest plights of the autistic community.



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13 Feb 2008, 4:54 pm

the more I think about it , the less I have to say about it. :|



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13 Feb 2008, 5:12 pm

The way I see it, crazy/sick people come from everywhere, and can be anyone. This time, he just happened to be autistic.

But the reportage does cast negative light on autism, and he was wrong to use it as an excuse/defense.



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13 Feb 2008, 8:16 pm

From the article:

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It read: "Two characteristics in common with people of that condition are that he is extremely impulsive and not likely to think ahead of what the possible ramifications might be. In retrospect he can see he has done something wrong.


8O I've never read that a lack of impulse control is a characteristic of AS. The article implies that people with AS can't control any impulses related to their obsessions, and that this is so extreme that they can't be held accountable for their actions. It also implies that we aren't always capable of thinking ahead, which I doubt is true.

I might not always have the best impulse control, but it's not that bad. I'm certainly responsible for my actions, and I do understand the consequences of them.



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13 Feb 2008, 8:26 pm

He paid to join that site and download the images. He's a pedophile.

I don't think having Asperger's Syndrome should be an excuse for this. "He just wanted to collect them", they say.

I agree every time some crime is committed and AS is put up as the excuse, everyone else with AS gets stigmatized. This is why I dont generally let people know that I have AS anymore. A lot of people still believe Cho Seung Hui had AS and will associate me with him.



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13 Feb 2008, 8:52 pm

I agree. AS should not be an excuse for collecting child porn.


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13 Feb 2008, 11:58 pm

Quatermass wrote:
I agree. AS should not be an excuse for collecting child porn.


Same here... if enough people do this, AS will become synonymous with pedophilia in the public eye... ditto for murderers who hide behind their dx's in order to get a lighter sentence...



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14 Feb 2008, 1:26 am

jrknothead wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
I agree. AS should not be an excuse for collecting child porn.


Same here... if enough people do this, AS will become synonymous with pedophilia in the public eye... ditto for murderers who hide behind their dx's in order to get a lighter sentence...


I also concur.



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14 Feb 2008, 2:21 am

Back when I was much younger, I use to break into houses, buildings of all sorts, shoplift, etc.

I did most of these things on impulse. They were stimulating to me. I didn't need to do them, didn't have any addictions to feed, no need for things to sell for money, wasn't angry at the people I did these things to.

Now, knowing I have ADD/HD (didn't know it back then) and knowing that people with ADD/HD are rather impulsive, I could fall to my knees and beg forgiveness because of my 'condition'... but I don't and I am glad I was caught and given the punishment I got back then.

So, in short... I also agree with what appears to be the majority here... AS is not an excuse to be free from responsibility and the consequences of one's actions when those actions are deemed a terrible offense by society.

I do not know all the particulars of the case nor of the outcome other than what was posted here.
Just from what was posted here, I would say the court was too lenient.

And I also think it does cast a pallor over anyone with AS due to some people's reactions to stories like this.


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