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26 Mar 2008, 10:40 pm

what are your thoughts concerning the end of history theory that's supposed to take place on December 21st, 2012?

It's got me a little concerned given that mathematicians have used fractal geometry to show the Mayan calendar from a graphical standpoint.



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26 Mar 2008, 10:53 pm

I'm scared. I don't like the fact that it's going to be Winter again, when we just got out of Winter.

But seriously...I don't know what will happen, maybe some big spiritual transformation, maybe the end of the world, maybe just a day when a lot of new-agers will be as embarrased as a 1975 Jehovah's Witness. Some of us won't make it to 2012, anyway.

Whatever happens, I'm down with it.



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26 Mar 2008, 11:00 pm

I'm not worried about it. Just the beginning of a new age or somesuch.


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26 Mar 2008, 11:11 pm

digger1 wrote:
what are your thoughts concerning the end of history theory that's supposed to take place on December 21st, 2012?

It's got me a little concerned given that mathematicians have used fractal geometry to show the Mayan calendar from a graphical standpoint.



Whats going to happen globally on December 21st, 2012? NOTHING. 8)



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26 Mar 2008, 11:12 pm

We will just have to wait and see... Maybe those Mayans knew something we don't..



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26 Mar 2008, 11:30 pm

Averick wrote:
We will just have to wait and see... Maybe those Mayans knew something we don't..


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26 Mar 2008, 11:55 pm

I already got my ticket.



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27 Mar 2008, 12:43 am

Based on their astronomical studies the Maya induced that everything occurs in cycles. Their daycount starts at the end of a global flood which they figured, I'm not sure how, was going to reoccur as well...



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27 Mar 2008, 12:48 am

Oh, like, DUDE! Perhaps you should stand on a soapbox out on the sidewalk and practice your freedom of speech by telling the world that the end is near so that I can exercise my freedom to accidentally spill my coffee and run you over with my little white truck and explain to the cop that the sun got into my eye while the paramedics scrape the remains of your body off of the ground to have it sent off to be prepared for the closed casket funeral you will need because my brakes didn't start to work until you had been dragged halfway back to the the rat-ridden apartment complex at which I live because the moronic politician that you voted for messed up the economy so badly that the banks are pulling out of the student loan programs faster than your body would die after having become roadkill!

Can anyone's priorities be so screwed up that it really matters to them when or how the world is supposed to come to an end? Some people are just trying to make some kind of effort at living out decent lives, here, wherever the world is going.



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27 Mar 2008, 12:58 am

Griff wrote:
Oh, like, DUDE! Perhaps you should stand on a soapbox out on the sidewalk and practice your freedom of speech by telling the world that the end is near so that I can exercise my freedom to accidentally spill my coffee and run you over with my little white truck and explain to the cop that the sun got into my eye while the paramedics scrape the remains of your body off of the ground to have it sent off to be prepared for the closed casket funeral you will need because my brakes didn't start to work until you had been dragged halfway back to the the rat-ridden apartment complex at which I live because the moronic politician that you voted for messed up the economy so badly that the banks are pulling out of the student loan programs faster than your body would die after having become roadkill!

Can anyone's priorities be so screwed up that it really matters to them when or how the world is supposed to come to an end? Some people are just trying to make some kind of effort at living out decent lives, here, wherever the world is going.


Did I say "the end is near?" No. Mayans were mistaken with their philosophy of cycles, that was what I was trying to infer. You are really spring loaded... read and THINK before you post!



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27 Mar 2008, 1:04 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Did I say "the end is near?" No. Mayans were mistaken with their philosophy of cycles, that was what I was trying to infer. You are really spring loaded... read and THINK before you post!
I wasn't talking to you. Besides, I generally find your conversation pleasant, if novice.



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27 Mar 2008, 1:16 am

Griff wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Did I say "the end is near?" No. Mayans were mistaken with their philosophy of cycles, that was what I was trying to infer. You are really spring loaded... read and THINK before you post!
I wasn't talking to you. Besides, I generally find your conversation pleasant, if novice.


Yeah, the post hoc ergo proper hoc does get to me sometimes, especially when the 2nd person is appearing to be singular. I may be just paranoid, :shrug:

As for the novice part... I've only studied a book on logic and taken two courses in electronics which involved digital circuits. I've never taken courses on debate, but I do enjoy watching formal debates when I can, particularly ones on the creationism/naturalism issue.



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27 Mar 2008, 7:53 am

would anyone care to enlighten me on this topic even if briefly? i must start storing nuts and getting my wicker basket prepared!

jk i just don't know what is being referenced... beyond something on a mayan calender


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27 Mar 2008, 8:05 am

Griff wrote:
the the rat-ridden apartment complex at which I live .


So, what happened? Did you use to live in a nice suburban house?



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27 Mar 2008, 8:14 am

I think that some extremest groups may take advantage of everyone's fear of the day and initiate a major strike that day. This is the most I think will happen, I do not believe that anything divine or otherworldly will occur.



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27 Mar 2008, 8:49 am

Sedaka wrote:
would anyone care to enlighten me on this topic even if briefly? i must start storing nuts and getting my wicker basket prepared!

jk i just don't know what is being referenced... beyond something on a mayan calender


the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, notably used by the Maya civilization among others of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica, completes its thirteenth b'ak'tun cycle since the calendar's mythical starting point (equivalent to 3114 BC August 11 in the proleptic Gregorian calendar, according to the "GMT-correlation" JDN= 584283).[7] The Long Count b'ak'tun date of this starting point (13.0.0.0.0) is repeated, for the first time in a span of approximately 5,125 solar years. The significance of this period-ending to the pre-Columbian Maya themselves is unclear, and there is an incomplete inscription (Tortuguero Monument 6) that records this date. It is also to be found carved on the walls of the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque, where it functions as a base date from which other dates are computed.[8] However, it is conjectured that this may represent in the Maya belief system a transition from the current Creation world into the next.

2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual transformation (or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the thirteenth B'ak'tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there will be a major change in world order.

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