Innocent people being accused of trolls

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Anemone, thanks for the link. It contains great advice.

My 2 cents ...

I'm sure I am not alone on this, but when I read a post that attacks another person I learn a lot about the "writer/attacker," and nothing about the recipient of the attack. The writer/attacker may be making valid points, but they don't come through to me when packaged in vitriol. I base my judgment of everyone in the WP community on their own posts and try to give them the benefit of the doubt regarding their intentions recognizing that the nature of this medium means some posts may not articulate or express the writer's thoughts as precisley as they would like.

Glad you like it.

I get called a troll on a lot of forums, and I can't figure out why.

Not all trolls are bad, this one is called Windy...




Windy's in the nip!

"Medium size the green hair troll."

Bias or not. Look at all the posts. Anyone can see Ephemerella made one comment, and then she got internet jumped. All I see her do is defend herself. I understand the concept of diplomatic negotiations, but when I'm jumped in the real world, there is nothing diplomatic on self defense.

That would be like the time my friend got jumped by some, we assume, drug addicts. She pulled into a parking spot where people were standing next to it, and one claimed she hit them with her car when she was at least 3 feet from them. So they all jumped her. Wrong girl to jump. She took on two with no problem, but the other two were getting difficult. But she knows a lot of people and a friend walked by and jumped in on her behalf. They beat the living crap of the attackers. That would be like the drug addicted attackers (who probably did this after the fact) turning around and saying, "but we are the victims from her psychotic behavior."

I checked out those links, and I try to do all those things and people still take it wrong sometimes. Not so often here as much as when I critique. Some writers just freak out over anything outside of a perfect piece no revisions needed. Like one guy wrote a poem that I had a hard time figuring what he meant. He had a very confusing subject verb choice going on. Since it was about Christ's crucifixion, the way he had it written was mocking Christ, but his intentions were Christian. I didn't know that at first. At first, I thought he was a devil worshipper. Then, in the authors note, I finally figured out he was Christian, so I re-read his poem about 30 times before I could find out where exactly he sounded evil and what he might have been trying to say. So when I said the critique, I said that I found great confusion in this line, quote line, and that it might be better to re-word it somethign more like and made some suggestions. I also said his author''s note would look lovely in the piece because it was very well written. I told him he was a great writer from the other poems I read by him as well. Either way, he ended up arguing with me about whether or not I should have understood what he said. Even when I said things like "Don't go by my word on it. Maybe I'm just being stupid and missing the point. If you get more critiques like this, then maybe consider changing it, but you shouldn't do so on my account alone." He still argued wtih me like I was attacking him. Finally I just stopped responding to his arguments. Now I don't want to critique any more of his poems if they aren't perfect poems.

I will say I kinda broke a rule once and didn't get argument. I read one poem which wasn't a great poem. But the author notes said that the guy writes songs. As a song, it was well written. So I put, if you mean this as a song, this is my critique.

Either way, there is nothing more frustrating than people not getting your point. It's not about getting everyone to agree with you as much as just getting them to understand what you are trying to say rather than what they feel like you are saying for their convenience. Personally, I get negative out of my frustrations in many of those cases.

You know what I bet would help is to really incorporate all the writing concepts even in things as informal as a forum. Think of the main point, the beginning, middle end. Think paragraph form. And consider the audience.

One of my biggest problems also is when I try to say something that is fact, people will think I'm stating my opinion.

But even in this post, you see me jumping around from thought to thought. I write as I think. That sometimes works out well, but how can I confirm my method will communicate what I'm saying and received properly more often than not? Maybe if I learned to organize information better in my head for purposes on this forum, I would not only reduce my monologues, but also maybe communicate more effectively in the real world.

So I'm on my clutter diet, for the house and my mind. What an interesting philosophy for the year. Glad I wasn't so hell bound on my New Year resolutions because this clutter diet idea is a great one. I know I should of started with this post, but like any diet I do, I always start with, next one I'll start.

I think i got called a troll once by someone who had not been on the board for more than a few posts, and now I think they no longer post at all.

I wonder if they were a troll.

That would be an interesting way to troll...hop on a board and start calling other people trolls.

I have not read most of the rest of this thread..

Sorry if this has already been covered...

oops..I checked and they are still on the board, and they are not a troll..they just reacted really weirdly to what I said for some reason.