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23 May 2008, 7:02 am

Since my early childhood I've had extreme views on things.

I hate this extremism but whenever I get angry at something it comes back 10 fold.

At my best I have been told I am a very caring person who cares and thinks about my family members, and I am against the death penalty, against war and so on.

But the next day I may be the next Adolf Hitler, fantasizing about being a supreme dictator calling to exterminate neurotypicals, political and religious opponents and going to war against nearly every single country in the world.

I've been planning murder, terrorism and even coup d'état, then dismissing the plans, but a couple of weeks later I develop new plans. Fortunatly I've never carried out any of my plans.

The only people who want to talk to me are family members and mental health care personnel at my mental health institution.

Whereever I go I only create new enemies. I may start out as the caring and loving person, then turning revolutionary.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-6H4xOUrs

This is how I act in real life when I am in a bad mood :(

There seems to be no hope for me :(



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23 May 2008, 8:34 am

I can relate. I also planned big dictatorship-like things too before but never did it.



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23 May 2008, 8:49 am

I'm not an "extremist" but I do tend to have "odd" views that are "eccentric," old fashioned, or way ahead of their time. For example, I consider myself a spiritual atheist, I consider spirituality perfectly compatible with a rejection of notions of God or the Supernatural (there is a good book on this called The Little Book of Atheist Spirituality). I am a socialist but I reject Marxism and I have no problem with private businesses as long as it is employee-controlled private businesses. I am both an environmentalist and a techno-utopian. I'm a "Big Government Liberal" yet I am also for thrift and personal responsibillity.


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23 May 2008, 9:06 am

How does atheist spirituality work?



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23 May 2008, 11:54 am

I know what you mean as well. I've exhibited views that a lot of people see as very extreme. I've often talked about the classical republic from Ancient Rome as the supreme form of government, and at times, shown a pro-monarchist stance.



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23 May 2008, 4:38 pm

Living in this world,I don`t blame you mate...



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23 May 2008, 10:26 pm

slowmutant wrote:
How does atheist spirituality work?


http://selzshaven.blogspot.com/2008/04/ ... ality.html


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23 May 2008, 10:41 pm

Maybe that's bipolar? Those are some extreme mood swings :?



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24 May 2008, 12:19 am

quite honestly, OP I had the same ideas. Though I think many people, Autistic or not do.

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But the next day I may be the next Adolf Hitler, fantasizing about being a supreme dictator calling to exterminate neurotypicals, political and religious opponents and going to war against nearly every single country in the world


I remember wanting to do some Global Revolution-type s**t Marxist style to destroy all authority, force and control from religious (see some of 10 commandants, can't dress 'casual' in many Christian churches in US-one of the reason I decided to go to a unitarian church down the street the Sunday before Christmas 2007) -to social (see Confucianism-basically authority is good, it's good to accept order and rank, and all that s**t to be a cog) -to legal (Drug War, Statutory Rape, Anti-Holocaust Denial laws) -etc.

EDIT: and I remember wanting to make a new nation, then I felt stupid for suggesting that when I got older, than thought yeah I was right when I was younger (see the current US; at least secession might be a good idea for some)


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24 May 2008, 1:38 am

I certainly wanted to make sure though that I didn't sound like I was hateful of my own country.



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24 May 2008, 4:16 am

dktekno wrote:
But the next day I may be the next Adolf Hitler, fantasizing about being a supreme dictator calling to exterminate neurotypicals, political and religious opponents and going to war against nearly every single country in the world.

I've been planning murder, terrorism and even coup d'état, then dismissing the plans, but a couple of weeks later I develop new plans. Fortunatly I've never carried out any of my plans.


I can completely understand that. In the past i've developed murder plans and also plans to take a large building of people hostage...you know...just for the sake of it, to scare them. :roll:
I dismiss these plans, take them on again and dismiss them yet again...over and over and over again.

I don't see anything wrong with you having these thoughts/plans, as long as the thoughts aren't obsessive and you never carry out one of the plans you spoke of. If you have doubts whether or not you will carry out these plans, though, you should speak to a psychologist in my opinion.
And don't worry...you are NOT crazy. :)


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24 May 2008, 10:33 pm

Warsie wrote:
quite honestly, OP I had the same ideas. Though I think many people, Autistic or not do.

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But the next day I may be the next Adolf Hitler, fantasizing about being a supreme dictator calling to exterminate neurotypicals, political and religious opponents and going to war against nearly every single country in the world


I remember wanting to do some Global Revolution-type sh** Marxist style to destroy all authority, force and control from religious (see some of 10 commandants, can't dress 'casual' in many Christian churches in US-one of the reason I decided to go to a unitarian church down the street the Sunday before Christmas 2007) -to social (see Confucianism-basically authority is good, it's good to accept order and rank, and all that sh** to be a cog) -to legal (Drug War, Statutory Rape, Anti-Holocaust Denial laws) -etc.

EDIT: and I remember wanting to make a new nation, then I felt stupid for suggesting that when I got older, than thought yeah I was right when I was younger (see the current US; at least secession might be a good idea for some)


LOL, I went through a "Marxist armchair revolutionary" phase in high school, from which I only emerged from after bad experiences with Maoist ANSWER nuts in my freshman year in college. :lol:


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25 May 2008, 4:32 am

Jesus, I'm like the only libertarian revolutionary here.

I'm the only libertarian believing in a Maoist style guerilla war.



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25 May 2008, 1:00 pm

I'm imagining the Libertarian Liberation Front:

"We should blow the bridge just as the train's going over it."

"You can go ahead if you want to, but I'm going to toss some satchel charges over the fence at the army base."

"You're both wrong. There's going to be a patrol going out tonight. We can hit them with concentrated mortar fire and wipe them out before they know what happened."

"Go ahead and do it then. I can't stop you, but we could hit the jail in force and break out the political prisoners. They're not expecting trouble. Security's not that tight."

"Go ahead if you want to, but I think it's a bad idea. I don't want any part in it."

"How about we do something to help the poor people, get them supporting us, you know, like Mao said, fish in the water and all that."

Everybody: "Nah, that's not my problem, it's their own fault they're poor. I couldn't care less."

"But you can't win a guerrilla war without the support of the people."

"Okay then, tell them we want to legalize all drugs. Then the crackheads and junkies will support us."

"Tell them we don't care about public education. Poor kids won't have schools. The kids will think that's great."

"Tell them if we win, they still won't have any health care, but the doctors and the corporations will make more money."

"I don't think they'll go for that. Why should they support us if we're going to make their lives even worse?"

"Ah, just tell them they need to read Adam Smith, like we always do."

Then they all meet up in the prison camp and try to figure out what went wrong.


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25 May 2008, 1:43 pm

dktekno wrote:
Since my early childhood I've had extreme views on things.

I hate this extremism but whenever I get angry at something it comes back 10 fold.

At my best I have been told I am a very caring person who cares and thinks about my family members, and I am against the death penalty, against war and so on.

But the next day I may be the next Adolf Hitler, fantasizing about being a supreme dictator calling to exterminate neurotypicals, political and religious opponents and going to war against nearly every single country in the world.

I've been planning murder, terrorism and even coup d'état, then dismissing the plans, but a couple of weeks later I develop new plans. Fortunatly I've never carried out any of my plans.

The only people who want to talk to me are family members and mental health care personnel at my mental health institution.

Whereever I go I only create new enemies. I may start out as the caring and loving person, then turning revolutionary.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-6H4xOUrs

This is how I act in real life when I am in a bad mood :(

There seems to be no hope for me :(



What I find strange is that I interact well with extremists of all types, even those I disagree with. I have been to David Duke's house, visited several Ku Klux Klan members, went to Cuba and met operatives with the Communist Party of Cuba, attended John Birch meetings. I actually feel sorry for people like Randy Weaver, Tim McVeigh and Reverend Fred Phelps. In fact I think it's a shame that Tim McVeigh couldn't have been convinced to do something tacky like picket funerals. It might have prevented the OK City bombing.

As someone who is knowledgeable about extremists, I will tell you that it's dangerous not to let them vent. That's why it's foolish to stymie rallies by extremist groups.


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26 May 2008, 7:00 am

You're not crazy. Maybe I'll call you all sometime, you could be useful. <_<

Whilst I don't have exactly revolutionary plans, I plan to do something about alot of crap in the world. Maybe I'll succeed.


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