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18 Aug 2008, 7:08 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGjrCZpj5j0[/youtube]

When I worked for Wal-Mart and McDonald's together, I was paid $7.23/hr at McDonald's and
at Wal-Mart I was paid $7.95/hr.

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18 Aug 2008, 7:16 pm

I liked that the video was short. I hate long videos. I would prefer more of a substantive analysis of wal-mart in terms of the effects of wal-mart good pricing strategies, how it maintains a solid position in the labor market despite low-wages, and how all of this relates to economic efficiency. If only more videos were not videos so much as lectures.

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18 Aug 2008, 7:27 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

When I worked for Wal-Mart and McDonald's together, I was paid $7.23/hr at McDonald's and
at Wal-Mart I was paid $7.95/hr.

I do not understand what this statement is meant to imply. Are you stating you are apposed to both McDonald’s and Wal-Mart’s wages?

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18 Aug 2008, 7:33 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Thread is yours; youtube doesn't have much though. People can get fired for complaining if found out and identified, so you won't find too many.

An interesting source of information, though I don't approve of some peoples avatars, is the forum
http://www.walmart-blows.com/forum/index.php I'm on there with the same username, but I'm not asking anyone else to join. Working there previously, I can speak with some experiential knowledge. See what other people who work or have worked there say if you like.

Question though: do you know what it is like to live from paycheck to paycheck?

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18 Aug 2008, 7:36 pm

claire333 wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

When I worked for Wal-Mart and McDonald's together, I was paid $7.23/hr at McDonald's and
at Wal-Mart I was paid $7.95/hr.

I do not understand what this statement is meant to imply. Are you stating you are apposed to both McDonald’s and Wal-Mart’s wages?

It's just a statement of fact to be judged on an individual basis. Check the cost of living in Shakopee MN 55379.

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18 Aug 2008, 7:39 pm

I like wal-mart

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18 Aug 2008, 7:41 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Question though: do you know what it is like to live from paycheck to paycheck?

People are paid what their employers think their labors are worth. If they can get a higher wage elsewhere, then they should do it. Otherwise, they're probably lucky to have any form of employment at all!

Odd ... I've never heard or read anything about unionization of any Wal-Mart workers. Does anyone know if there is a Wal-Mart Worker's Union?

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18 Aug 2008, 7:45 pm

Fnord wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Question though: do you know what it is like to live from paycheck to paycheck?

That's not exactly true. An employer can pay whatever they want, but ultimately the employer pretty much has to set the price to the market worth of the labor. They may rather not pay that than get the service, but its no more true that they're in charge than saying that the price of goods is determined by what a person thinks its worth. That will determine the individual's purchasing choices, but the overall price is going to be determined by the market.

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18 Aug 2008, 7:45 pm

I also live in an area with a high cost of living and can relate to living from paycheck to paycheck...have always done so. I know from other post of yours you are anti-Wal-Mart and do not begrudge you your views. I was afraid you might be implying the cashier at Wal-Mart might somehow be more deserving of better wages than perhaps the cashier at McDonalds. Thanks for the reply.

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18 Aug 2008, 7:57 pm

twoshots wrote:

Fnord wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Question though: do you know what it is like to live from paycheck to paycheck?

That's not exactly true. An employer can charge whatever they want, but ultimately the employer pretty much has to set the price to the market worth of the labor. They may rather not pay that than get the service, but its no more true that they're in charge than saying that the price of goods is determined by what a person thinks its worth. That will determine the individual's purchasing choices, but the overall price is going to be determined by the market.

Then consider the specific market: An abundant supply of unskilled labor in a shrinking retail environment. How much should Wal-Mart pay for a plentiful commodity of which it demands only a small fraction? Note the key words in bold.

Imho, somewhere between one and one-and-a-half times the minimum wage.

And I have lived from paycheck-to-paycheck, and hand-to-mouth, so I know what Wal-Mart employees are dealing with. But think about it ... those people are being paid the wages that they agreed to receive in exchange for their labors. So what if it isn't enough to buy both champagne and caviar? Let them drink Coke...

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18 Aug 2008, 8:03 pm

No objection here. The market sets the price low.

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18 Aug 2008, 8:10 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Thread is yours; youtube doesn't have much though. People can get fired for complaining if found out and identified, so you won't find too many.

Well, I don't expect criticizers of wal-mart to just be employees, I would really expect it to just be people in general. I would expect that the average wal-mart employee would not be in a position to write a meaningful critique of wal-mart or of the economic system where wal-mart works within in general.

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An interesting source of information, though I don't approve of some peoples avatars, is the forum
http://www.walmart-blows.com/forum/index.php I'm on there with the same username, but I'm not asking anyone else to join. Working there previously, I can speak with some experiential knowledge. See what other people who work or have worked there say if you like.

Hmm... I'd prefer not to use a forum, especially since I am asking for proof more of the analytical form rather than experiential or something like that. I mean, I suppose I could do my own research like I am sure that the epi will have some article against wal-mart.

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Question though: do you know what it is like to live from paycheck to paycheck?

No, I do not, but I have heard bad things about it. I am sorry about that experience of yours though.

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18 Aug 2008, 8:11 pm

Fnord wrote:

Very true.

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Odd ... I've never heard or read anything about unionization of any Wal-Mart workers. Does anyone know if there is a Wal-Mart Worker's Union?

Wal-mart is anti-union, and is very well-known for efforts to prevent the formation of unions. I think they have closed stores for that reason.

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18 Aug 2008, 8:16 pm

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So what if it isn't enough to buy both champagne and caviar? Let them drink Coke...

Coke? You are a man of luxury I see, whenever I buy soda, I usually get some off-brand, like Dr. Skipper, or Dr. Thunder. The only time I drink standard sodas is when I go out to some fast-food place, I've been living off of eating one CiCi's buffet meal a day for example because you get a lot of food for very cheaply. If I weren't doing so, then I'd probably just eat a 10 cent pack of ramen or 2 with maybe a cheap can of veggies to balance it out.

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18 Aug 2008, 10:59 pm

I detest Wal-Mart, so I choose not to shop there. Besides, I know another cheap place to get groceries....Winco (if you don't live in the western US, you probably won't know what that is). I like that they're employee-owned....
The best way to get stores to adopt better business practices is to not shop at places that, in your opinion, do not have good business practices. Even though I'm definitely not a believer in Neoliberal Economics, some principles of it definitely work....

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18 Aug 2008, 11:18 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Fnord wrote:

So what if it isn't enough to buy both champagne and caviar? Let them drink Coke...

10 cent ramen? Near my home in Ohio, the price of ramen is up to 17 cents a packet. Tough times indeed. As for me, I just stick with drinking water. And I eat whatever is in the university dining hall; right now I am being given free food by the band. Though I miss breakfast tomorrow because of Tropical Storm Fay. :evil:

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