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28 Aug 2008, 2:53 am

I'm just wondering why the actions of moderators and administrators cannot be questioned?

Such as questioning why a thread was locked or a member banned. Why not allow public scrutiny?



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28 Aug 2008, 3:27 am

I guess that they have their rules to stick to and have enough on their plate without indulging in time wasting arguments with everyone.


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28 Aug 2008, 4:25 am

Economics of time aside, why not? Shouldn't everyone be held accountable?



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28 Aug 2008, 4:27 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
I'm just wondering why the actions of moderators and administrators cannot be questioned?

Such as questioning why a thread was locked or a member banned. Why not allow public scrutiny?


One reason that banned members cannot be discussed is that it might inflame the forums even more, and thus cause more crap for us to clean up. Ditto with a locked thread. Savvy?


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28 Aug 2008, 4:47 am

Quatermass wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
I'm just wondering why the actions of moderators and administrators cannot be questioned?

Such as questioning why a thread was locked or a member banned. Why not allow public scrutiny?


One reason that banned members cannot be discussed is that it might inflame the forums even more, and thus cause more crap for us to clean up. Ditto with a locked thread. Savvy?


Wouldn't that depend more on IF there is flaming rather than civil criticism?



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28 Aug 2008, 5:04 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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iamnotaparakeet wrote:
I'm just wondering why the actions of moderators and administrators cannot be questioned?

Such as questioning why a thread was locked or a member banned. Why not allow public scrutiny?


One reason that banned members cannot be discussed is that it might inflame the forums even more, and thus cause more crap for us to clean up. Ditto with a locked thread. Savvy?


Wouldn't that depend more on IF there is flaming rather than civil criticism?


We both know very well how civil criticisim can often be misconstrued, or else taken as a personal attack. In other words, even civil criticism can degenerate very easily into a flame filled wasteland.


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28 Aug 2008, 5:32 am

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We both know very well how civil criticism can often be misconstrued, or else taken as a personal attack. In other words, even civil criticism can degenerate very easily into a flame filled wasteland.


True, especially in PPR. It does amaze me how easily everything I say can be taken out of context and then I get a lot of remarks thrown at me. Fora sunt delira.



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28 Aug 2008, 5:35 am

Speaking from past experience of moderating/admin on several other forums a year back, this kind of public scrutiny never leads to anything productive, sounds so good in theory, in practice, its simply a waste of time, mainly due to reasons as stated previously in this thread.

And really, why do would anyone want to discuss the politics of WP rather than what the board is for: mainly autism and related discussion. There are plenty of really good politics boards out there if that is what members enjoy.



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28 Aug 2008, 5:46 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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We both know very well how civil criticism can often be misconstrued, or else taken as a personal attack. In other words, even civil criticism can degenerate very easily into a flame filled wasteland.


True, especially in PPR. It does amaze me how easily everything I say can be taken out of context and then I get a lot of remarks thrown at me. Fora sunt delira.


Nescio quid dicas. Sic, me oportet propter praeceptum te nocere. :P


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28 Aug 2008, 6:08 am

Quatermass wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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We both know very well how civil criticism can often be misconstrued, or else taken as a personal attack. In other words, even civil criticism can degenerate very easily into a flame filled wasteland.


True, especially in PPR. It does amaze me how easily everything I say can be taken out of context and then I get a lot of remarks thrown at me. Fora sunt delira.


Nescio quid dicas. Sic, me oportet propter praeceptum te nocere. :P


"I don't know what you said. Thus, it is acceptable therefore for me to teach you the precepts of pain. :P"

Interesting... "Fora sunt delira" means, "the forums are crazy."



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28 Aug 2008, 6:12 am

pearls before swine.



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28 Aug 2008, 6:16 am

Postperson wrote:
pearls before swine.


Like I asked MrMark a few months back, who am I allowed to call swine?



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28 Aug 2008, 6:21 am

should that be whom?

I wouldn't ask MM anything. He knows 0, therefore can tell you 0.



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28 Aug 2008, 6:23 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
We both know very well how civil criticism can often be misconstrued, or else taken as a personal attack. In other words, even civil criticism can degenerate very easily into a flame filled wasteland.


True, especially in PPR. It does amaze me how easily everything I say can be taken out of context and then I get a lot of remarks thrown at me. Fora sunt delira.


Nescio quid dicas. Sic, me oportet propter praeceptum te nocere. :P


"I don't know what you said. Thus, it is acceptable therefore for me to teach you the precepts of pain. :P"

Interesting... "Fora sunt delira" means, "the forums are crazy."


Oh yes, I get it. But the more meaningful translation of my phrase was, "I don't know what you're saying. So, on principle, I'm going to have to hurt you."


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28 Aug 2008, 6:50 am

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should that be whom?

I wouldn't ask MM anything. He knows 0, therefore can tell you 0.


Yes, whom. Whatever. MrMark also tried pulling the "don't cast pearls before swine" as a somewhat manipulative way of using the Bible to suggest I be quiet.

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Oh yes, I get it. But the more meaningful translation of my phrase was, "I don't know what you're saying. So, on principle, I'm going to have to hurt you."


Well, that's one possible wording I guess. It's what you meant jokingly, right?



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28 Aug 2008, 7:14 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Quatermass wrote:
Oh yes, I get it. But the more meaningful translation of my phrase was, "I don't know what you're saying. So, on principle, I'm going to have to hurt you."


Well, that's one possible wording I guess. It's what you meant jokingly, right?


Facetiously, yes.


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