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21 Sep 2008, 5:07 pm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26796928/

extraordinarily unprofessional!

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CHICAGO - An attorney has been suspended for more than a year for accepting nude dances from a stripper as partial payment for the legal fees she owed him.

The Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission on Thursday said Scott Robert Erwin will begin serving a 15-month suspension for misconduct next month.

Erwin, who practices in the northern Illinois city of DeKalb, and his client mutually agreed that she'd perform nude dances for him in his office as a way to reduce her legal fees, the commission's report said. He credited her for $534 toward his bill for services of various legal matters, the report said.
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While she agreed to the performances, the client contended he touched her inappropriately during those dances, and she went to police in 2002 with sexual assault allegations.

Erwin denied any inappropriate touching happened, and he was never charged criminally, the report said. He declined to comment on the panel's decision Thursday. The woman no longer works as a stripper, the report said.



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21 Sep 2008, 7:09 pm

I wonder where he touched her. If he was really an attorney he should have known that this would turn out like this. And if he did touch her he should have known he could have probably got a disease which leads me to think her allegation is false.



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21 Sep 2008, 7:53 pm

I think the lawyer got a raw deal on this one... if nude dancing is legal, then accepting that service as payment is no more unethical than accepting repair services from a plumber or a carpenter... I don't get how the service added up to $534 though... how many lap dances did she give him?



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21 Sep 2008, 7:55 pm

jrknothead wrote:
I think the lawyer got a raw deal on this one... if nude dancing is legal, then accepting that service as payment is no more unethical than accepting repair services from a plumber or a carpenter... I don't get how the service added up to $534 though... how many lap dances did she give him?


Maybe he did touch her! That's an awful lot for a couple of lap dances!



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21 Sep 2008, 7:56 pm

gives a whole new meaning to 'habeas corups', don't it?...;)
Somehow, I think the dancing was more like 'a vertical expression of a horizontal intention'. Of course, lawyers @#$ing people over is hardly news...;)



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21 Sep 2008, 7:57 pm

pakled wrote:
gives a whole new meaning to 'habeas corups', don't it?...;)
Somehow, I think the dancing was more like 'a vertical expression of a horizontal intention'. Of course, lawyers @#$ing people over is hardly news...;)


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21 Sep 2008, 8:01 pm

Kind of sucks for the lawyer. What was so terribly unethical about this? Could he not legally have accepted payment from her and then turned around and used that money to pay her to dance for him? How is it different to skip one step in there?


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21 Sep 2008, 10:11 pm

Orwell wrote:
Kind of sucks for the lawyer. What was so terribly unethical about this? Could he not legally have accepted payment from her and then turned around and used that money to pay her to dance for him? How is it different to skip one step in there?

Maybe she didn't have the money.


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21 Sep 2008, 10:34 pm

greenblue wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Kind of sucks for the lawyer. What was so terribly unethical about this? Could he not legally have accepted payment from her and then turned around and used that money to pay her to dance for him? How is it different to skip one step in there?

Maybe she didn't have the money.

That presumably is why these arrangements were made, but I see no reason why an alternate means of payment is necessarily unethical.


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21 Sep 2008, 11:25 pm

Orwell wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Kind of sucks for the lawyer. What was so terribly unethical about this? Could he not legally have accepted payment from her and then turned around and used that money to pay her to dance for him? How is it different to skip one step in there?

Maybe she didn't have the money.

That presumably is why these arrangements were made, but I see no reason why an alternate means of payment is necessarily unethical.


Agreed.

If he did sexually assault her during the course of this alternate payment, he should be tried for that. But I don't see why accepting lap dances in lieu of payment is illegal (or "misconduct". I'm not sure what that means re:legality, but I assume the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission is a government institution, so it must have been something illegal). It's just bartering services for services.



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22 Sep 2008, 12:02 am

Nellodee wrote:
If he did sexually assault her during the course of this alternate payment, he should be tried for that. But I don't see why accepting lap dances in lieu of payment is illegal (or "misconduct". I'm not sure what that means re:legality, but I assume the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission is a government institution, so it must have been something illegal). It's just bartering services for services.

If there was sexual assault, that was a criminal offense and should be tried as such. But accepting one service (that he could have traded money for) for another (which he normally would have charged money for) is not inherently wrong. All it does is skip a middle step.


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