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20 Nov 2005, 12:57 pm

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It is people that do the science for science itself can not do science. It was people that even created science for science can not create itself. Most science that the scientist do is cone correctly and unbiased but even scientists can be biased. Even in science You sometimes need a leap of faith so science can move forward do You not. It only takes a few morons to ruin it for the rest of us.

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20 Nov 2005, 1:17 pm

Sorry, I'm confused about what you're saying.
Could you try rephrasing it?

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20 Nov 2005, 1:35 pm

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People do the science.

Science itself can not do science.

People that created science in the end.

Science itself did not create itself.

Most science that scientists do is done correctly and unbiased.

Even though some scientists can be biased.

Even in science You need a leap of faith so science can move forward do You not.

It take only a few morons to ruin for the rest of us.

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20 Nov 2005, 1:41 pm

kevv729 wrote:

Ahh, okay, thanks.

I think I get it and I agree with most of what you're saying.

I don't get what you mean by the line about a leap of faith to move forward though.

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20 Nov 2005, 1:50 pm

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It took some that was working on String Theory a leap of faith just to stay in and believe in the Theory. Back in the 60s and 70s many scientists where laughing at these scientists but who is laughing now. String Theory took many years before it became accepted by the scientific community at large. So some may need some faith in the end then.

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20 Nov 2005, 2:16 pm

kevv729 wrote:

Ahh.
Makes sense.

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20 Nov 2005, 4:29 pm

Philosophy is the use of reason and knowledge to determine the meaning of things.

Philosophy helped fill a "void" in my life, debating and discussions.

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20 Nov 2005, 4:59 pm

Philosophy is philosophy.

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20 Nov 2005, 5:36 pm

synx13 wrote:

Philosophy is philosophy.

Ahh, nut how do we know that a thing equals itself?
And if a thing does not equal itself then what do we know?

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20 Nov 2005, 5:45 pm

Quintucket wrote:

synx13 wrote:

Philosophy is philosophy.

Ahh, nut how do we know that a thing equals itself?
And if a thing does not equal itself then what do we know?

And what is knowing? and how do we define equality? and how do we define "define"? and how do the magical fart-powered cell-phones fit into all this?

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18 Jan 2006, 5:52 pm

I will always see science as a philosophy unto itself. For science has to be a philosophy to move forward in its understandings for what is just is in the end.

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18 Jan 2006, 7:55 pm

Philosophy is a thing, it is a method for finding out the best way to do things using available resources. As such it uses logic and data in order to find truths and perhaps even decide how they may be applied. Philosophy is a hobby to some extent as it is interesting to think about reality in such a way but it is truly a tool to be used by mankind to do whatever is desired.

As for school of philosophy I believe in... well... I only dabble in philosophy whenever it comes to debating. I guess I tend to have a logical, absolutist, anti-liberal view to life and philosophy.

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30 May 2007, 3:04 pm

The Problem of Induction

Everything that uses logical induction requires a sort of leap of faith.

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30 May 2007, 4:17 pm

Well, I'd go back to the original formation of the word itself, which literally means "love of wisdom". And I agree, it's not an art form, but it seems to be used as such. People nowadays make, or adopt, philosophies in order to express themselves emotionally -- sort of the same way they choose particular CD's: the usual thought process, when present and not simply an impulse based on trends, is, "Which CD's best express me, and how I'm feeling right now, and what I think about life in general?"

In other words, lots of people today use philosophy to simply state their opinions, rather than to ask questions about life.

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30 May 2007, 4:49 pm

philosophy is a meaning of things

science is a measure of things

don't confuse the two. you don't have to know why a bottle is 10 inches long to say that it's 10 inches long.

edit: sorry for the random analogy...i'm drinking a jolt cola right now.

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30 May 2007, 4:55 pm

philosphy is a viable substitute for religion, to provide meaning for your life. Science alone cannot provide it. You must.

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