AS and murder.

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Additionally, Asperger's combined with psychopathy may also produce an individual that kills when upset, gets upset over small things and knows enough to clean up any evidence.

Do autism spectrum disorder make one more prone to violent crime?

Here are some "warning signs" that an individual could be a spree killer. I'd say some of those tends to be prevalent in cases of ASD.


I'm personally very fascinated with school shootings such as those in Columbine. It makes me sad when the moral police removes important videos and manifestos from internet servers.

lmao... I meet 22 of the 28 criteria... that's incredibly disturbing. Although not really surprising, there were times between me being the ages 14-18 where I fantasised about going on a killing spree .
I'm a lot more settled and happier now though and experiencing those kinds of thoughts myself has enabled me to identify individuals who I'm better off staying away from.

To be fair though, I don't give much credence to that list, or this idea that people with Asperger's are more prone to violence than any other individual. I personally believe that those with AS who adamantly defend this theory are trying to deal with a perceived sense of victimhood, seen as believing oneself to be capable of such things can be quite empowering to some. Also, those who adamantly rail against the theory, beyond a "reasonable" amount, I believe are desperately trying to protect the idea that aspies are more capable of having a positive effect on the world than NT's.

Obviously, I'm aware that this is just my own opinion and that things are by no means so black and white. Each person has thier own individual reasons for having whichever opinion they do on the subject.

On a whole, people with an ASD are less likely to commit violent crimes than the normal population (conversely, they have a greater incidence of it happening to them). This is from criminology studies. If violent crime does happen, it's usually arson which involves property damage.

You'd probably be interested in reading up on Martin Bryant; he was diagnosed with AS post-killing spree by a government psychiatrist.

1st rule of any report:

correlation isnt causation
correlation isnt causation

you also need to define forensic setting.

Does that mean that among the juveniles that were considered to possibly have one disorder or another, 15% had ASD?

If so then the quoted is missleading, that statistic doesn't link crime to autism.

15% of youth with 'psychatric problems' have ASD? Sounds like a fair number.

Statistics can be missleading, media sucks.

Anti-social personality disorder (which often leads to psycopathy) is not even on the autistic spectrum.

Here are some "warning signs" that an individual could be a spree killer. I'd say some of those tends to be prevalent in cases of ASD.

The above fit me in some way.(Although 4 don't really fit NOW, since I am not in school, and 1 only APPEARS that way. The other 2 certainly would happen because some people just DON'T like honest competition, or are dishonest. People keep hiring friends and compatriots, and one jerk has blamed ME for problems HE created. But people like me, and he betrayed his company, which found out! ) Don't worry though. I am still not going to go on a killing spree, etc...

I meet a lot of these criteria. I bet a lot of other people here would as well. I have a little problem with anger management at times.

my intellect tells me though that not only would killing people not solve any of my problems, it would also most likely get me in jail. so why do it?

Two words. Jeffery. Dahmer.

Generally, studies show ASD people are a little less violent than the general population.

Unsubstantiated statements to the contrary just create more fear surrounding ASD.

Right, I really don't know much about how these studies are carried out, so please could someone explain to me??

Because, how do they figure this sort of thing out?? I've been a lot more violent than my peers over time, but who's to say that has anything or nothing to do with me having AS?? I just think that if an aspie does have a violent outburst, who's to say that his/her AS is the root of it? Could be many different reasons for it.

Forgive my ignorance on the subject, also my point being a little vague, could be because I'm incredibly hungry and can't really concentrate.

i met 24 of the criteria of the list in first post, in fact my entire class had a topic of murderers in (im still trying to figure out if its S.O.S.E or humanities) sose and he had the class vote on who is the most likely to be a murderer and i came 1st and the main person that bullied me came 2nd then surprisingly my friend came 3ed

Alright...so everyone knows who the potential killers are because of "profiles" like this one.
Let's say we know someone IRL that has traits or experiences that mimmick the ones listed on the profile.
What do you do with such a person?

Most of those 'warning signs' fit people with certain Personality Disorders - especially Anti-Social, Borderline, and Narcissistic.

This has nothing to do with Asperger's.

However, it is of course possible for a small minority of Aspies to also have a Personality Disorder.

I was diagnosed as an aspie when I was 14 and then when I was 19 I was diagnosed with "Personality Disorder NOS". Anyone else have any experience with this kind of comorbid diagnosis?

When I was in high school my teachers and the school faculty treated me like I was going to become a serial killer... Of course they also believed I was possessed by the devil. Maybe there's a correlation between ASD and demonic possession.