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23 Feb 2009, 11:21 pm

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Also, someone mentioned the Joker from The Dark Knight but it sort of got buried between posts. I'd have to aggree that on some level, his thinking is very aspie-like. He feels no connection to people and perhaps is willing to kill for fun because he lacks some theory of mind. I remember a time in my childhood when I was obsessed with making booby traps to the extent that people got hurt (no seriously, I had some sense of responsibility) but all I could think of was how well the trap worked and how cool it looked. This is sort of how I imagine the Joker thinks.


Joker seems to have a "theory of mind" (perhaps a werong theory, but a theory nevertheless) - his actions are nothing more than a giant psychological expriment.


That doesn't mean anything. A psychological experiment using humans as test subjects sounds somewhat aspie to me. Perhaps that is because I am more morbid aspie than most here. If I had the resources, I might want to do something like The Joker did, just to show people how illogical their morals really are. I am also quite disgusted with what people will do for money. It is just cotton with a dead president on it. It's value is purely psychological. To say he is not an aspie based on the experiment is not an adequate argument.

Most humans live delusional and illogical lives. The Joker is not insane, he is completely sane. Those who live by "morals" and "laws" they are taught from childhood are the delusional ones. He tries to show them this. Unfortunately, most aspies also follow the delusion of society.

I hope you all enjoy your worthless moral code.


There's a reason why I have a poster of the Joker in my room.



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07 Mar 2009, 3:43 am

Doctor Manhattan from the Watchmen



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07 Mar 2009, 7:27 am

Anya from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Not only did she have Asperger's, but she was the funniest character on the show.


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07 Mar 2009, 7:38 am

annie hall- akward, eccentric, stop start conversational skills. bad eye contact.

though i have also read here that diane keaton is suspected of being a.s, so taht might explain some of her mannerisms in the film, rather than being direction.



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07 Mar 2009, 7:42 am

MartyMoose wrote:
Doctor Manhattan from the Watchmen


Ror is. Note how he doesn't use pronouns, his rigid thinking, his lack of personal care, his "poverty", his lack of empathy, his monotonous voice (even more so in the book), his obsessiveness, flat affect, etcetera. They call him a sociopath, but he ain't one.

John kinda is the next step up from "genius syndrome" in my opinion.

Ror has always been how he is for the most part, whereas John being turned into "god" made him lose some human relatedness (but nowhere near as much as people think).



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07 Mar 2009, 3:54 pm

misslottie wrote:
annie hall- akward, eccentric, stop start conversational skills. bad eye contact.

though i have also read here that diane keaton is suspected of being a.s, so taht might explain some of her mannerisms in the film, rather than being direction.


Is that true about Diane Keaton being suspected of AS? That´s really interesting! Ironically, I was just thinking today about the fact that Diane Keaton seems to often portray characters that I can relate to (like Annie Hall, among others)...and as I don´t often relate to female characters in film, it´s a bit of an anomaly, I was wondering about that. Of course, she often did films for Woody Allen, and I really liked all his films around that time- (the Louise Lasser/Dianne Keaton eras). When he started making films with Mia Farrow, I didn´t really like those films anymore.

My Mom saw an interview with Dianne Keaton once, and afterwards she kept talking about how Dianne Keaton reminded her of me. So that´s also kind of interesting....


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07 Mar 2009, 5:52 pm

Data the android on ST:TNG and Andrew the positronic robot in -BiCentennial Man-

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07 Mar 2009, 5:54 pm

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incoorect to say spock. He was half vulcan. Its a trait that is is his species norm...added by the conflicts the come from his two halves opping each other as well as not being able to belong to humans or vulcans


Even so, the Spockian characteristics are very much in line with human AS.

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07 Mar 2009, 6:08 pm

like the fincitonal character spculation becoming fictional alien character with a.s discussion. ;-)

Morgana- i read on the recent actors with a.s thread here- someone mentioned keaton.
like you, or your mother anyway, she was one of the few women on film that seemed to be really like me (though im more bad tempered).
also worth remembering the female presentation of a.s can be very different to that in men; appears far more social from greater interest/desire/training to mimic social ques and norms etc (an entirely other thread) but you know what i mean.



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07 Mar 2009, 6:10 pm

I am not sure about this one---I need some of you to help me out. When I was growing up I remember seeing this soap opera called Mary Hartman. If I remember correctly, she was not the NT type? Anyone know anything about Mary Hartman?


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07 Mar 2009, 6:17 pm

I remember watching it and now I do believe she had a lot of AS traits. As long as we are on vintage tv, how about Les Nessman from "WKRP" ? Possibly Mr. Carlson as well.


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07 Mar 2009, 7:33 pm

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I am not sure about this one---I need some of you to help me out. When I was growing up I remember seeing this soap opera called Mary Hartman. If I remember correctly, she was not the NT type? Anyone know anything about Mary Hartman?


Played by Louise Lasser who is Nutsy Fagin. I knew a guy who dated her, and he claimed she was Looney Tunes. She is/was a very weird lady.

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08 Mar 2009, 12:11 am

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Just about every character - Spongebob Squarepants
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(Spongebob is extremely routine oriented to the point where he has a tantrum when he can't go to work on time. He is very OCD about his job and completely breaks down when he thinks he forgot the pickles on a hamburger. He is a grown man (sponge) and living alone, but is extremely immature (blows bubbles, loves sqeaky toys). He is very hyperactive and does a lot of stimming. He has imaginary friends. He has a very irregular speech pattern. He has an obsessive interest in jellyfishing. I wonder if the show was intentionally made to exhibit autism.)

Patrick might qualify for moderately functioning autism. He seems retarded, and the show never portrays him as having any sort of job or life beyond following Spongebob around and living under a rock....very overly emotional as well.

Sandy - definite Aspie


Hermione Granger, Neville Longbottom, Xenophilius(sp) Lovegood - Harry Potter series

Ben - Castaways of the Flying Dutchman series by Brian Jacques

Ender and Bean from the Ender's Game/Shadow series

Some more advanced literature:

Sydney Carton & Dr. Manette - A Tale of Two Cities
Pip - Great Expectations
David Copperfield

Raskolnikov- Crime and Punishment by Dostoyevsky

Creature - Frankenstein by Mary Shelley


I have to disagree about Ender. He easily connects with people and is extremely good at figuring out what other people are thinking/feeling.



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08 Mar 2009, 9:12 am

I used to watch Mary Hartman, and I remember I liked it a lot. I don´t remember enough about it though to comment on her possible AS-ness.


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08 Mar 2009, 9:14 am

misslottie wrote:

also worth remembering the female presentation of a.s can be very different to that in men; appears far more social from greater interest/desire/training to mimic social ques and norms etc (an entirely other thread) but you know what i mean.


Yes, I know exactly what you mean, and I think I´m this way too.


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09 Mar 2009, 8:57 am

I just started watching some old reruns of Alf (the furry little alien sit-com from the 80s). I think Alf had Alfsperger Syndrome. And he is from another planet and takes things literally.


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