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29 Nov 2008, 11:36 am

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29 Nov 2008, 11:54 am

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29 Nov 2008, 11:58 am

OK, we get the point.

I disagree with the point anyway. Hitler could well have used the same argument to justify the Nazi regime. (Sorry to use that old debate cliche, LOL.)

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29 Nov 2008, 12:00 pm

No, the government (whatever government) has no right to enact population controls. The right to do with your body what you wish is the most basic human right, it's no different than anti-abortion laws, just turned 180 degrees around.

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29 Nov 2008, 12:01 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

Hitler could well have used the same argument to justify the Nazi regime. (Sorry to use that old debate cliche, LOL.)

No Goodwin, it's justified.

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29 Nov 2008, 12:03 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

OK, we get the point.

I disagree with the point anyway. Hitler could well have used the same argument to justify the Nazi regime. (Sorry to use that old debate cliche, LOL.)

BZZZZZT, you lose! :lol:

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29 Nov 2008, 12:07 pm

Cyberman wrote:

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

OK, we get the point.

I disagree with the point anyway. Hitler could well have used the same argument to justify the Nazi regime. (Sorry to use that old debate cliche, LOL.)

BZZZZZT, you lose! :lol:

I fail to see how I lose. In fact, I think you just got uber-pwned (or would that be cyber-pwned... :lol:

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29 Nov 2008, 12:10 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

I fail to see how I lose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

Anyway, the democratic system is far from perfect, but I think it's way better than the kind of life that anarchy would bring. Most of you wouldn't last very long under anarchy...

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29 Nov 2008, 12:14 pm

Gina is always right.

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29 Nov 2008, 12:14 pm

Cyberman wrote:

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

OK, we get the point.

I disagree with the point anyway. Hitler could well have used the same argument to justify the Nazi regime. (Sorry to use that old debate cliche, LOL.)

BZZZZZT, you lose! :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodwins_law

"Godwin's Law applies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations (or one's opponent) with Hitler or Nazis or their actions. It does not apply to discussions directly addressing genocide, propaganda, or other mainstays of the Nazi regime."

And

"Anyone who invokes Goodwin's law falsely is subject to immediate incineration"
OK, I made the last bit up, but it should be true.

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29 Nov 2008, 12:22 pm

Cyberman wrote:

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

I fail to see how I lose.

I never suggested anarchy.

And my argument wasn't actually Reductio ad Hitlerum, else I would have said, "Hitler supported population control laws, therefore they must be evil." Which is not what I said or implied in any way. I said that your point was not proved or disproved ethically.

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29 Nov 2008, 12:41 pm

You cannot win a argument with Gina, it's literally impossible.

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29 Nov 2008, 12:49 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

And my argument wasn't actually Reductio ad Hitlerum, else I would have said, "Hitler supported population control laws, therefore they must be evil." Which is not what I said or implied in any way.

If you didn't mean to imply it, then why bring it up in the first place? Why not just state why you disagree with me?

And since this thread is already derailed...

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Gina is always right.

Funny, that's what they said about Mussolini... :roll:

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29 Nov 2008, 12:53 pm

Cyberman wrote:

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

And my argument wasn't actually Reductio ad Hitlerum, else I would have said, "Hitler supported population control laws, therefore they must be evil." Which is not what I said or implied in any way.

If you didn't mean to imply it, then why bring it up in the first place? Why not just state why you disagree with me?

I never brought up Reductio ad Hitlerum, I used the reference to Nazism as a valid comparison.

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And since this thread is already derailed...

DeLoreanDude wrote:

Gina is always right.

Funny, that's what they said about Mussolini... :roll:

Well, I do like Italian food... :lol:

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29 Nov 2008, 1:08 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

I never brought up Reductio ad Hitlerum, I used the reference to Nazism as a valid comparison.

So you think my belief in the necessity of having a few laws makes it "valid" to compare me to the Nazis. Well, "that's your opinion." UND IF I VAS INTERESTED IN YOUR OPINION, I VOULD BEAT IT OUT OF YOU, YOU FILZZY SCHWEIN. SHOOT ZEM... SHOOT ZEM BOTH! :twisted:

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29 Nov 2008, 1:12 pm

Cyberman wrote:

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

I never brought up Reductio ad Hitlerum, I used the reference to Nazism as a valid comparison.

So you think my belief in the necessity of having a few laws makes it "valid" to compare me to the Nazis.

Falsity. I never compared you to the Nazis, I simply said I disagreed with your opinion.

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