Population Control
And I'm for it as long as they are not being encouraged (or forced) to abort, as they do in China.
Reproduction is a matter of individual choice, and this freedom to choose is thus an inalienable right. Roe v. Wade made that abundantly clear.
would you like to explain that to us civil-law-reliant Europeans?
Google it.
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Exactly! It's not the government's right to choose for us.
well, Swift had a Modest Proposal (Reincarnated as a movie, Soylent Green...
The problem is that we've spent too much time eliminating threats to human reproduction. Actually, things are a lot brighter than they seem. a Hundred years ago, people were having families of 10-12, or even more.
Well, the obvious solution is to bring back our natural predators. We need to vastly increase the number of lions, tigers, bears, (oh my!), wloves, soccer hooligans, and such, and introduce them into our urban environment. Maybe we could let the air out of the paramedics' tires, lock the doors to the hospital, and offer free airplane tickets for Al-queda to wherever.
you do know I'm kidding, right?... This always happens when I read too much Terry Pratchett...
And I'm for it as long as they are not being encouraged (or forced) to abort, as they do in China.
Reproduction is a matter of individual choice, and this freedom to choose is thus an inalienable right. Roe v. Wade made that abundantly clear.
would you like to explain that to us civil-law-reliant Europeans?
Google it.
ok, I did google it, but I see no connection. we're talking eugenics here, which have *nothing* to do with abortion (which btw, I'm totally pro)
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not a bug - a feature.
And I'm for it as long as they are not being encouraged (or forced) to abort, as they do in China.
Reproduction is a matter of individual choice, and this freedom to choose is thus an inalienable right. Roe v. Wade made that abundantly clear.
would you like to explain that to us civil-law-reliant Europeans?
Google it.
ok, I did google it, but I see no connection. we're talking eugenics here, which have *nothing* to do with abortion (which btw, I'm totally pro)
No, we're discussing population control (thread topic). Abortion is used as a means of population control. It is also a woman's reproductive right to choose (or not) in the USA. Forced abortion is a violation of a woman's reproductive rights in the USA, and is used as a means of population control in China.
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And I'm for it as long as they are not being encouraged (or forced) to abort, as they do in China.
Reproduction is a matter of individual choice, and this freedom to choose is thus an inalienable right. Roe v. Wade made that abundantly clear.
would you like to explain that to us civil-law-reliant Europeans?
Google it.
ok, I did google it, but I see no connection. we're talking eugenics here, which have *nothing* to do with abortion (which btw, I'm totally pro)
No, we're discussing population control (thread topic). Abortion is used as a means of population control. It is also a woman's reproductive right to choose (or not) in the USA. Forced abortion is a violation of a woman's reproductive rights in the USA, and is used as a means of population control in China.
okey dokey, I see I've gone way too far in trying to derail this thread... damn, I'm so bored with discussing abortion... well, it was worth a try
still though, I'm pro. especially when it comes to India, them being a over-billion population... the earth needs some adjusting- get all the hungry Ethiopian kids up to our rich European countries dealing with demographic trouble!
eh. if it only was that easy...
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not a bug - a feature.
It is. Eliminate innoculations and vaccinations for third-world countries, and make it mandatory for the rest of us. In ten years, reinstate these programs, but only for those who can afford them. In another ten years, offer them again to college graduates, as well. Over a period of a quarter-century, not only will the world's population have been reduced, but the incentive of "Graduate or Die" would inpire many more people to acquire college degrees.
We'll just call program "Post-Natal Abortion" to keep it all nicey-nice so that the bleeding-heart liberals don't cry.
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If that's how you choose to perceive it, then I s'pose you're right.
All I'm saying is that breeding children shouldn't be considered a "right". It should be an earned privilege.
After all, why should only fertile men and women have the right to breed?
Couldn't you also say that infertile men and women have the same "right"?
It is. Eliminate innoculations and vaccinations for third-world countries, and make it mandatory for the rest of us. In ten years, reinstate these programs, but only for those who can afford them. In another ten years, offer them again to college graduates, as well. Over a period of a quarter-century, not only will the world's population have been reduced, but the incentive of "Graduate or Die" would inpire many more people to acquire college degrees.
We'll just call program "Post-Natal Abortion" to keep it all nicey-nice so that the bleeding-heart liberals don't cry.
whoa! a man with a plan. sounds great to me. just the keeping-control-of-UN-human-rights-council might be a bit of a bugger...
oh well. we'll all have a good laugh about it in some... 200 years? (hopefully)
happy 4k btw Fnord!
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not a bug - a feature.
We'll just call program "Post-Natal Abortion" to keep it all nicey-nice so that the bleeding-heart liberals don't cry.
Based on this scenerio I would have died a long time ago.
I grew up in a lower-middle-class family, more often than not we didn't have healthcare, and I only have a GED.
Based on that I guess I don't deserve to live.
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It is. Eliminate innoculations and vaccinations for third-world countries, and make it mandatory for the rest of us. In ten years, reinstate these programs, but only for those who can afford them. In another ten years, offer them again to college graduates, as well. Over a period of a quarter-century, not only will the world's population have been reduced, but the incentive of "Graduate or Die" would inpire many more people to acquire college degrees.
We'll just call program "Post-Natal Abortion" to keep it all nicey-nice so that the bleeding-heart liberals don't cry.
whoa! a man with a plan. sounds great to me. just the keeping-control-of-UN-human-rights-council might be a bit of a bugger...
oh well. we'll all have a good laugh about it in some... 200 years? (hopefully)
happy 4k btw Fnord!
Thanks! Most folks say I don't look a bit over 3000!
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I agree with population control. I'm not sure how to go about doing it, but I do think it is a good idea for the future. They have to stop the continous growth before the population gets too large, and the world can't sustain it anymore.
There may be too many of us already.
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Those who speak, don't know.
Those who know, don't speak.
And I'm for it as long as they are not being encouraged (or forced) to abort, as they do in China.
Reproduction is a matter of individual choice, and this freedom to choose is thus an inalienable right. Roe v. Wade made that abundantly clear.
would you like to explain that to us civil-law-reliant Europeans?
Google it.
ok, I did google it, but I see no connection. we're talking eugenics here, which have *nothing* to do with abortion (which btw, I'm totally pro)
No, we're discussing population control (thread topic). Abortion is used as a means of population control. It is also a woman's reproductive right to choose (or not) in the USA. Forced abortion is a violation of a woman's reproductive rights in the USA, and is used as a means of population control in China.
okey dokey, I see I've gone way too far in trying to derail this thread... damn, I'm so bored with discussing abortion... well, it was worth a try
still though, I'm pro. especially when it comes to India, them being a over-billion population... the earth needs some adjusting- get all the hungry Ethiopian kids up to our rich European countries dealing with demographic trouble!
eh. if it only was that easy...
That's a nice way to sink the economy.....
If that's how you choose to perceive it, then I s'pose you're right.
All I'm saying is that breeding children shouldn't be considered a "right". It should be an earned privilege.
After all, why should only fertile men and women have the right to breed?
Couldn't you also say that infertile men and women have the same "right"?
Your point is moot. That is tantamount to arguing that the government should restrict who has the right to walk because paraplegics and quadriplegics yearn to do the same. Who would have the right to breed in your ideal "utopian" world?
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They should stop letting any randomers have kids, I reckon. I've always wondered about how they screen who can adopt, but anyone who gets knocked up is allowed to raise children. What gives? The outcome is the same.
And some of you need to remember that it isn't realistic to ban everything we don't like. In an ideal society, everyone would follow the letter of the law and this would work, but in real life, it just doesn't. You just end up with a 1984 society.
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