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tigerlady
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06 Dec 2008, 8:17 pm

How many Apies were born being coneheads?
Just wondering?
My son was born cone headed because the doc. use foresesup at birth. He was great until shots at two!



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06 Dec 2008, 9:20 pm

It's not an Aspie thing, trust me. cone head thing is quite common.



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06 Dec 2008, 9:21 pm

Brook-lynn20 wrote:
It's not an Aspie thing, trust me. cone head thing is quite common.


Yep it is due to the bones in the head not being fused, you see if they were fused most babies would never have a chance to be born but since babies' head bones are not fused they can come out. Oh and by the way babies don't have much bone when they are born, most of their skeletal system is actually cartilage the same stuff that makes up your ears and nose.



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06 Dec 2008, 9:44 pm

Although it's sort of interesting that you brought this trait up.
In Steinbeck's the Grapes of Wrath, a paragraph is devoted to the use of forceps in the birth of and the cone-shaped head of the autistic character, Noah. You can read a whole theory on it http://biodiverseresistance.blogspot.co ... -noah.html.
But yeah, I don't think it's connected at all.



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06 Dec 2008, 10:17 pm

Maybe they're just from Remulak...;) If it's as common as they say, I think we'd be more represented.



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06 Dec 2008, 10:21 pm

It is not uncommon at all for babies' heads to be misshapen from the pressure of traveling down the birth canal. One of my girls looked like an alien for months and she still has a bump on her head (her cephalohematoma calcified!).

As far as the shots at age 2, signs of autism tend to become especially noticeable starting around 18 months. There is no way to know that if your child were unvaxed that they wouldn't have shown signs of autism at this time. My daughter was unvaxed and started showing clear signs at 18 months on the dot.



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06 Dec 2008, 10:24 pm

My parents said I never cried as a baby. I don't know if that has anything to do with AS.



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07 Dec 2008, 3:04 am

Coneheads are extremely common and not at all likely to be an aspie thing.

Not crying much as a baby is perhaps different though since apparently I didn't despite some major trauma... the same for my eldest (aspie) son he had a very difficult birth but didn't cry much despite the fact that the forceps obviously did a considerable amount of damage.



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07 Dec 2008, 11:55 am

Nate didn't cry a lot either. The doctors ended up taking him in for additional tests on his lungs because he hardly cried. His lungs checked out as fine. My other son hardly cried, too. He is definitely NT. He still cried more than Nate.

Very interesting.



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07 Dec 2008, 1:30 pm

gbollard wrote:
Coneheads are extremely common and not at all likely to be an aspie thing.

Not crying much as a baby is perhaps different though since apparently I didn't despite some major trauma... the same for my eldest (aspie) son he had a very difficult birth but didn't cry much despite the fact that the forceps obviously did a considerable amount of damage.


I had a forceps birth too. I had some birth trauma too, but little crying.
My cousin with autism screams a lot, but he is way past being a baby and is now a child with a learning disorder and little vocabulary.



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07 Dec 2008, 5:23 pm

no coneheads here....c-sections.



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08 Dec 2008, 3:07 am

Mishapen heads at birth?

Don't forget about those Hoover Babies!

My daughter was born with the aid of the vacuum(not the one from home... hehehe) and her little head was a bit out of round from that experience... but she turned out alright.

Forceps can also leave marks on the face.
I've seen them used in a couple of deliveries (referred to as salad tongs because of the way they go together.. just like those plastic salad tongs that slip together at the hinge), along with suction.

It is sad though when an injury is sustained, but I believe most assisted deliveries turn out okay.


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08 Dec 2008, 12:13 pm

Frogger11758 wrote:
Although it's sort of interesting that you brought this trait up.
In Steinbeck's the Grapes of Wrath, a paragraph is devoted to the use of forceps in the birth of and the cone-shaped head of the autistic character, Noah. You can read a whole theory on it http://biodiverseresistance.blogspot.co ... -noah.html.
But yeah, I don't think it's connected at all.


Noah isn't autistic, he's brain damaged. I feel rather insulted you would confuse the two.

My son was born via C-section because he had an abnormally large head (and still does). I have been told macroencephaly is common in autistics.



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08 Dec 2008, 2:00 pm

ster wrote:
no coneheads here....c-sections.


Same here.

I will say that there may be a correlation between AS and birth TRAUMA of some sort. Not as the cause of AS, since I do believe it's genetic, but the trauma certainly could make things worse, and could create some of the sensory issues we see in AS.


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09 Dec 2008, 12:04 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
ster wrote:
no coneheads here....c-sections.


Same here.

I will say that there may be a correlation between AS and birth TRAUMA of some sort. Not as the cause of AS, since I do believe it's genetic, but the trauma certainly could make things worse, and could create some of the sensory issues we see in AS.


When you speak of trauma are you only talking about the physical intervention during the delivery by the doctor/midwife or do you include things like breech deliveries, prolapsed cord, etc.?
Just curious.

I'm just wondering if we're talking about a correlation where the 'cause' of AS may also influence the management of the birth... if that makes any sense to anyone, lol.
Maybe I can explain it better if no one understands what I mean.

Oh.. btw.. DW, I live in Humboldt County... way Northern California.. just saw the Northern California listing under your avatar. :wink:


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09 Dec 2008, 3:04 pm

Brook-lynn20 wrote:
It's not an Aspie thing, trust me. cone head thing is quite common.


I agree, my DS got stuck because I have a narrow pelvis, I ended up needing a C-section but he still had a cone head