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08 Dec 2008, 3:12 pm

I've read it for a dousend of times "gouverment lies, marijuana isn't dangerous" and "no permanent damage" or "it changed my way of thinking into clearly thinking" <-- things like that, now is it true that this drug is really GOOD drugs? Because all i read on the internet is good good and its a lie



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08 Dec 2008, 3:34 pm

Marijuana is no worse than alcohol, other than it appears to trigger psychotic illness in some people, but that may be because those people have the 'schizophrenia gene'. I would actually argue that marijuana is better than alcohol because alcohol makes a lot of people violent. I think it should be legal, but my opinion isn't worth much :shrug:

As for 'no permanent damage' - most people get high by smoking it. Smoking causes quite a bit of permanent damage, as everyone knows.

I can't really imagine that marijuana makes anyone think clearer. :| Potheads talk a lot of rubbish.



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08 Dec 2008, 3:59 pm

If i have to choose, i take the cannabis over
alcohol any day of the week. Smoking cannabis
causes the negative effects of smoking, but
theres no reason to since theres ways to
extract the oil and put it in food. Some of
the most well balanced, peaceful people
i know have used cannabis now and then
for the last 20-30 years instead of other
things and have no problems. 15 year
olds getting stoned the first thing they do
in the morning every day smoking crap
will probably have some problems. Other
people i have met cant take it, they stress
and feel very bad - its like everything else,
it works for some and for others not.
Personally, after many many years of
learning about this i can safely say its
one of the least dangerous things we have,
(but that doens`t mean it fits everybody)
in many cases it has a good effect but it
have to be good quality. If you eat bad
food you get sick. If you use bad drugs,
you get sick.

One of the latest studys i saw showed some
result pointing to some parts of cannabis
helping against alzheimers. Its a painkiller
and its more and more used amongst
cancer patients and others. In adition
the plant itself is one of the biggest and
best resourches we have, it grows so much
faster then trees, needs much less to thrive
and have more areas of use then trees. But
sadly, due to the drug hysteria of the 1930`s
and the "marihuana kills you" propaganda
reliezed then, we are still trying to erradicate
one of our biggest resourches on this planet :(
Its riddicolous.

To compare cannabis and alcohol is almost impossible,
its two drugs but two completly different things. If i
had to put danger labels on them, i would say alcohol
is at least three times more dangerous then cannabis
in every way, at least three times. I have been in so
many drunken idiotic brawls but i have yet to see
anyone who is adult and use cannabis with sense go
berzerk, never. In fact, its often quite the opposite,
its well-spoken smart people who appriciates peace
and intelligent conversation and do not wish anyone
any harm, they use it for recreation, instead of drinking
and turning into raving morons ready to split skulls.



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08 Dec 2008, 4:04 pm

weed is good in moderation. if you overdo it it kills your neurons by millions and makes your memory very very bad. not to mention it can cause psychosis.

alcohol (wine especially) has more health benefits but it's fatality rate is much higher because it's so addictive and so easily obtained.


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08 Dec 2008, 4:15 pm

One thing about causing psychosis, the worse the
quality the more chance you flip over. Very often
its not the cannabis itself, its all the residue and
s**t that end up in it in combination with the
cannabis. Quality is overloooked in 80-90%
of the cases, people aren`t picky when it comes
to drugs. Good quality, organic clean cannabis is
much less likely to mess up your head. Sadly, since
its all about money, theres alot of bad quality stuff
around.



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08 Dec 2008, 4:17 pm

I think whether or not it's a good drug depends on the reasons you have for using it.

On the positive side it can kill pain. Increase your appreciation of your surroundings - especially music. It can give you lots of little epiphanies and turn you into an armchair philosopher! And help you notice things that normally pass you by without a second thought.

On the down side it can make you paranoid, socially awkward and avoid people. It can trigger psychosis. It will give you the muchies lol. Smoking also causes numerous lung problems, not just cancer. It's expensive if it becomes a habit and will involve befriending dealers.

^ Just some ideas. :)



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08 Dec 2008, 4:24 pm

I would say whether or not it's a good drug depends
on if it fits you, and if you are using good quality.
Those are the two key elements that make all the
difference i think. And the smoking is a old fashion
problem, most adults i know use it in food or they
use a good qulity vaporizer which is less harmful.
But i would say extracting and using the oil in food
is the way to go for sure - very few sideeffects and
you dont even know its there, no smell or taste worth
mentioning and its just clean plant oil, natural stuff.



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08 Dec 2008, 4:37 pm

^^some plant oils can kill you or cause serious damage to your body. something being natural is no argument at all. ricin oil is just as natural and it can kill you in an instant.


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08 Dec 2008, 4:46 pm

"Marijuana = smarter"?? WTF have you been smoking?! :lol:

It's called "dope" for a reason, you know...



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08 Dec 2008, 4:48 pm

anna-banana wrote:
^^some plant oils can kill you or cause serious damage to your body. something being natural is no argument at all. ricin oil is just as natural and it can kill you in an instant.


Yes, but i dare to you find anything proving
cannabis oil is worse to your body then
drinking and smoking cigarettes :wink:
This have been studied on for years
and it continues



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08 Dec 2008, 4:53 pm

I would just like to mention that most that take
cannbis seriously are trying to get away from
words like "marihuana", it has gotten such a
bad rep. The plants name is cannabis and
thats where it all comes from. Theres three
types:

Cannabis sativa
Cannabis indica
Cannabis ruderalis

Under these there are thousands of different
types and crosses, hybrids.

not much to remember - cannabis is its name :)



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08 Dec 2008, 4:53 pm

I'm not saying it's worse, it just messes up your brain insted of other body parts like other substances. I don't know about you but I'd take a liver transplant instead of a psychosis any day :wink:

I'm all for legalisation, I totally love weed when the moment is right for it, all I'm saying is that the old argument of it being "natural" is no argument really...


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08 Dec 2008, 4:53 pm

And because getting shot is less harmful than getting nuked means you should do it, right?



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08 Dec 2008, 4:58 pm

anna-banana wrote:
I'm not saying it's worse, it just messes up your brain insted of other body parts like other substances. I don't know about you but I'd take a liver transplant instead of a psychosis any day :wink:

I'm all for legalisation, I totally love weed when the moment is right for it, all I'm saying is that the old argument of it being "natural" is no argument really...


No no, i`m not arguing and using that its natural,
its just a fact- its a plant oil, i just mentioned what
it was. And i cant compare alcohol to cannabis, its
two so very different things.



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08 Dec 2008, 5:01 pm

I should mention i`m not saying everyone
should use cannabis- I`m saying humans
love drugs. Thats a fact, they will continue
to get wasted on things in the future. So i
hope they choose their drug of choice
wisely and read up on it. I have chosen
mine and have no doubt i chose right.
I should also mention i have studyed
alcohol, cannabis, and alot of other
drugs over a long period of time. For
those who are serious, Erowid for ex.
is a fine place to read up a little.
http://www.erowid.org/



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08 Dec 2008, 5:09 pm

Cyberman wrote:
And because getting shot is less harmful than getting nuked means you should do it, right?


not the best analogy, but if you need a substance then minimising health risks is not a bad idea


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