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Zyborg
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28 Dec 2008, 11:57 am

We aspies are judged "unfit" for society by a NT-dominated establishment.

How could we be unfit for the society which we created?!

If it weren't for people with aspergers, the NT;s would still behave like cave-men, living at huts in river-sides, hunting with spears and clubs, and breaking bone to get to the marrow.

It is we who have come with the majority of the inventions which caused the industrialisation to happen.

Of course, had we been responsible, we would not have had such an irrational system for implementing it. But we left it all to NT;s to do, and just watch where that has led us!

If they manage at "curing autism", either by genetic tailoring, or more likely - by Holocaust - civilisation will enter a new dark age. New sciences and applications would be increasingly rare, and in the end, we will hit our ecological limits and regress back to a primitive society.

What is making aspergians superior?

Specialisation.

We are more specialised form of sentient life, adapted to acting within the frame-work of a technological society.

Aspergers might be a natural genetic mutation, which is beneficial to an industrial society and above.

In a society dominated by Aspergians, votes or money would not decide what should be done, but facts.

Instead of having politicians as the decision-makers, scientists would make the decisions.

Instead of acquiring and squandering money, we would find the best means to create the highest quality of life for most people, while at the same time keeping the Earth's ecosystem.

It is not we who need the Neurotypicals, but the Neurotypicals who need us!

The problems with Neurotypicals, is that they cannot seem to accept people of different cultural or neurological forms than themselves. That is why we still have tribal wars.

Therefore, now when they have integrated into one mass, they will try to build some sort of a "unity" against us.

In the end, they will find a way to exterminate us, not because we are a problem, but because we simply are different and they recognise that! They feel inferior to us, that is why they are resenting us!

Do they have any rational reasons to get rid of Asperger's, except that it is different from them?

Why Asperger's and not Psychopathy?

Why Asperger's and not Schizophrenia?

Because we are a potential "competitor".

NT;s, and especially the NT bosses, see the world as containing different tribes, who compete for resources. They recognise that our abilities soon has made us invaluable for the vast majority of NT;s, because we are the ones who best understand the technology which modern civilisation relies upon.

Either the NT;s accept us as equals
Or they will destroy us
Or we will destroy them

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28 Dec 2008, 12:10 pm

and sir isaac newton, beethoven and benjamin franklin too! and probably many more



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28 Dec 2008, 12:26 pm

I don't think there will be a holocaust, but I am concerned about "curing" autism.
Since we are less social than NTs, we are not distracted by the things NTs are and we have a better idea of the world's ills.

I am neither a genius nor an economic expert, but I saw the economic calamity the industrial world is currently feeling. The abnormally ease of credit lead to artificially high prices on houses and cars. Now with tight credit, we have to bail out banks and the US auto industry. NTs did not see this, but many Aspies did.

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28 Dec 2008, 12:46 pm

I don't hope there will be a Holocaust, but you could never know with NT;s.

The most important thing to understand with NT;s, and especially their flock leaders, is that what they are saying is not equal with what they are doing.

In the 30;s, they sterilised people and put them into institutions where they made electrical experiments on them. They said it was to "help" them.

During crises, NT;s tend to react like wild animals, supporting extremist factions which preach violence.

They will search for a scapegoat.

Most likely, they will kill or discriminate other NT;s of a different ethnic origin or social class.

But there is a risk that they will target us.



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28 Dec 2008, 12:47 pm

This is so stupid. :roll:



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28 Dec 2008, 1:02 pm

slowmutant wrote:
This is so stupid. :roll:


Why?



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28 Dec 2008, 1:06 pm

fine...you get back to us on that, y'all...;)

I seriously doubt that they're building gas chambers for us anytime soon. At about 1/2% of the population, we're outnumbered by redheads, southpaws, and the ambidextrous. Most people don't know what the heck we actually are, much less have a mistaken prejudice to explain our particular wavelength of the spectrum of Autism in general. And also, we're probably outnumbered by those with perfect pitch, so if you hear whistling on key...beware..;)

We're not equivalent to African-Americans, Jewish people, or LDS members. I know it sounds heroic that we should face deliberate, state-sponsored attacks, but let's get some perspective, eh?

As for a cure; we're probably decades away...we're not 100% on the causes of AS yet, much less an actual cure. If it is a specific area of the brain, you'd need to know how to alter neurons to establish new pathways. While the brain does this to an extent, deliberate concentration would be a little like Science Fiction at this point.

If they do come up with a cure, who's to say anyone would be able to afford it? Relax, it's not nearly that bad...



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28 Dec 2008, 1:10 pm

More and more people are diagnosed with Asperger's.

In my part of the world, it is one in 150 now, and its growing each year.

I am not thinking now, I am thinking 2019, 2029, 2039...

We must organise.



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28 Dec 2008, 1:14 pm

Zyborg wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
This is so stupid. :roll:


Why?


Because it's so overwrought. Aspergians are going to be an even bigger problem if they see everyone who is not like them as the enemy.



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28 Dec 2008, 1:18 pm

Zyborg, are you telling us you've never attended school or worked with another person who fell on the autism spectrum
and have never had to deal with their trying to regiment everything to their advantage without reciprocal reasonable accommodation on their part
or deal with their meltdowns when that didn't happen?

Trust me. It gets old
and I don't like it when conditions turn into dueling disabilities.

There's people who luxuriate in their disabilities
and there's people who see it all as a challenge.



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28 Dec 2008, 1:21 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Zyborg wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
This is so stupid. :roll:


Why?


Because it's so overwrought. Aspergians are going to be an even bigger problem if they see everyone who is not like them as the enemy.


Its the NT;s who are doing it, not the aspies.

I do not view all NT;s as enemies.

On the contrary, I have many NT friends.

For them, the most important thing is that everyone is in agreement.

NT;s are often very nice people and very agreeable as individuals.

It is when they are in groups they become dangerous. And they are pack animals.



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28 Dec 2008, 1:22 pm

macushla wrote:
Zyborg, are you telling us you've never attended school or worked with another person who fell on the autism spectrum
and have never had to deal with their trying to regiment everything to their advantage without reciprocal reasonable accommodation on their part
or deal with their meltdowns when that didn't happen?

Trust me. It gets old
and I don't like it when conditions turn into dueling disabilities.

There's people who luxuriate in their disabilities
and there's people who see it all as a challenge.


I have worked with them, and now you are confusing low-functioning autism with high-functioning autism.

If only 1/10 of all autists were like Nicola Tesla or Albert Einstein, I think its a price we could be willing to pay.



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28 Dec 2008, 1:27 pm

I agree with Zyborg.



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28 Dec 2008, 1:30 pm

Pack animals? Get over yourself.



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28 Dec 2008, 1:31 pm

Aspies could organise as well, but are not necessarily pack animals.

Human beings are animals.

I do not say it to be derogatory, I am simply stating a fact.

That accounts for both aspies and NT;s.



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28 Dec 2008, 1:32 pm

Zyborg wrote:
In my part of the world, it is one in 150 now, and its growing each year.


More like, 1 in 150 is somewhere on the autistic spectrum, I think.


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