I want my Androgynous Lifestyle

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07 Jan 2009, 12:24 pm

I made a thread called "I want my second life or I want my new life" but it got deleted. Anyways,

I'm really angry at American Society culture today. I know back in the 1980s, Androgynous people were excepted. Now a days, they aren't. It's all about Men need to act masculine and Women need to act Feminine and everyone has to follow traditional gender roles.


Even though I'm biologicly male, I feel Androgynous (inbetween masculine and feminine). Plus I'm attracted to Women who are Androgynous / Masculine.

I can't just say Tomboy now a days because the term is so vagly used, now a days it could meen a feminine women who likes or joins sports.

I'm not agenst feminine women in any way, I'm not attracted to femininity.

I know that I'm not homosexual because I'm not attracted to the male body.

I'm attracted to Masculinity and the biological Women together.



I don't know where to go, I've gone to LGBT websites and none of them take me serriously which really SUCKS!

I have to hide everything from my parents because they are old farts who beleave in the Gender Binary System and American Mainstream Normality.

And now the only transportation that I have out from my deserted town (Norwich, CT), my mother, is turning into a homophobic and a genderphobic. Meaning she refused to take me to any Androgynous meetings if I find any located in Providence RI which she only lives about 30 minutes away from.

Now I'm trapped with my conformist parents in Norwich and having the fear that one day, they will discover everything and call me the "Q" word and God knows what after words, not allowing me to live on my own until I start acting normal or some stupid s**t like that.

I want to grow my hair long and some day die it blonde and have a Masculine (Tom)-Boyfriend. But there's nothing that I can do right now. I guess I need to keep conforming to this stupid s**ty culture until I meet someone who can give me strong self-confidence within myself. *sigh* :cry:



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07 Jan 2009, 12:50 pm

I'm androgynous.


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07 Jan 2009, 1:15 pm

I'm androgynowhothef*ckcaresous. Or something. Gender roles are complete nonsense to me. I do wear "masculine" clothes, but I'd do the same if I were a woman, as I just simply find them comfier than most feminine clothes, as feminine clothes are often tighter, which doesn't feel right to me. And makeup, jewelry, et.c. all seems like pointless materialism to me. And high heels were probably invented by a rapist.
I'm not particularly comfortable with my body and I suspect I'd be more comfortable if I were a female transvestite, but I wouldn't go through gender reassignment, 'cause I like to keep things simple, so where I stand is basically "who cares". I'm just basically confused and fine with it.
Same thing when it comes to attraction, I guess. I don't get attracted to looks. At all. I can get attracted to intellect and personality and such, but I don't make the sexual connection. If I like someone, I don't automatically go "I'd like to mate with that". So I'm a virgin, and fine with that as well. Does this make me asexual? I don't know, and who cares?


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07 Jan 2009, 1:16 pm

Can't we all just get along???


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07 Jan 2009, 1:18 pm

You have two separate problems. One is the need to express yourself, be yourself, find your place in the world and be accepted for who you are. The other is your parents are reacting, and you are reacting to that. Ideally, you'll be able to pursue your solutions to the first problem while not wasting all your energy fighting with your parents. Parents are difficult beasts to manage. Be kind to them and try to avoid making problems with them worse as these can build up and become unnecessarily huge.

My husband and I are both androgynous and have often been mistaken for the opposite sexes. I just think it's often worth it to try to avoid being viewed as a "Just Pat" type character, though, as it makes superficial social life go more smoothly. In other words, when I changed some of my clothes a bit, etc, I stopped having these mistake issues with strangers, and I like that.



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07 Jan 2009, 1:19 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Can't we all just get along???

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07 Jan 2009, 1:29 pm

Hopefully (someday) your parents will accept androgyny soon.

I know, it's not much advice. I'm odd, in my opinion. I can't say I'm in your position, but hopefully your parents will come around.


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07 Jan 2009, 1:31 pm

ericc wrote:
I made a thread called "I want my second life or I want my new life" but it got deleted. Anyways,

I'm really angry at American Society culture today. I know back in the 1980s, Androgynous people were excepted. Now a days, they aren't. It's all about Men need to act masculine and Women need to act Feminine and everyone has to follow traditional gender roles.


Even though I'm biologicly male, I feel Androgynous (inbetween masculine and feminine). Plus I'm attracted to Women who are Androgynous / Masculine.

I can't just say Tomboy now a days because the term is so vagly used, now a days it could meen a feminine women who likes or joins sports.

I'm not agenst feminine women in any way, I'm not attracted to femininity.

I know that I'm not homosexual because I'm not attracted to the male body.

I'm attracted to Masculinity and the biological Women together.



I don't know where to go, I've gone to LGBT websites and none of them take me serriously which really SUCKS!

I have to hide everything from my parents because they are old farts who beleave in the Gender Binary System and American Mainstream Normality.

And now the only transportation that I have out from my deserted town (Norwich, CT), my mother, is turning into a homophobic and a genderphobic. Meaning she refused to take me to any Androgynous meetings if I find any located in Providence RI which she only lives about 30 minutes away from.

Now I'm trapped with my conformist parents in Norwich and having the fear that one day, they will discover everything and call me the "Q" word and God knows what after words, not allowing me to live on my own until I start acting normal or some stupid s**t like that.

I want to grow my hair long and some day die it blonde and have a Masculine (Tom)-Boyfriend. But there's nothing that I can do right now. I guess I need to keep conforming to this stupid s**ty culture until I meet someone who can give me strong self-confidence within myself. *sigh* :cry:


I don't believe it is possible for you to get "strong self-confidence within myself" from an outside source, ie. another person. But having said that, I do wish that you will find someone who understand yous, someone that makes you happy.

I know that hating society because of the Gender Binary System and the American Mainstream Normality (nice acronyms) comes most naturally to you right now, but it's ultimately futile. Instead of rejecting the society that rejects you, why not try to seek out the positives, the good things? The world always has something to offer, even for a person like you.

Please PM me so I can get to know you a litte more. :sunny:

((((((ericc))))))

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07 Jan 2009, 1:38 pm

Ladarzak wrote:
My husband and I are both androgynous and have often been mistaken for the opposite sexes.


That's very interesting because I'm looking for someone special who is androgynous myself.

Just out of curiousity, how did you find your husband?

I really like Androgyny not just because that I'm a part of it and I'm attracted it to it but it makes more sense to me then the typical stereotypes in the mainstream.

I was just curious, do you know of any Androgyne on-line organizations? I've been looking like crazy.

Whatisgender I've recently left, lots of jerks to people who are new plus they don't even like talking about Androgyne even though that's the purpose of the forum. Oh, well.



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07 Jan 2009, 1:38 pm

Ladarzak wrote:
My husband and I are both androgynous and have often been mistaken for the opposite sexes.


That's very interesting because I'm looking for someone special who is androgynous myself.

Just out of curiousity, how did you find your husband?

I really like Androgyny not just because that I'm a part of it and I'm attracted it to it but it makes more sense to me then the typical stereotypes in the mainstream.

I was just curious, do you know of any Androgyne on-line organizations? I've been looking like crazy.

Whatisgender I've recently left, lots of jerks to people who are new plus they don't even like talking about Androgyne even though that's the purpose of the forum. Oh, well.



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07 Jan 2009, 1:44 pm

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Can't we all just get along???


Yes, but this will never be a perfect world.



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07 Jan 2009, 2:33 pm

Just do what you feel comfertable with. I'm female, and haven't worn a dress since my parents dressed me up for an event at the age of 3 and I had a huge tantrum in the carpark, they never tried that again.

Be your own person, its all that you can do. As for your parents, a lot of children don't live up to what their parents want from them. It might take them a while for them to accept you, ironically you've got to be the adult one and not hate them for it, they are your parents. Theres no need to rush things, just take it slow and go out into the world, you'll find the person right for you.



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07 Jan 2009, 2:57 pm

I don't relate to having a body much, although I've gotten closer to it as I've aged. I'm sort of masculine and feminine at the same time (I'm a woman), but it wouldn't occur to me to go to the extent of an actual sex change (that's a lot of trouble to go to), it's more that I find the body a nuisance generally than I want to be some other gender.



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07 Jan 2009, 9:49 pm

> That's very interesting because I'm looking for someone special who is androgynous myself.

> Just out of curiousity, how did you find your husband?

We met over the net. I just saw his words in a general discussion group and I wanted to respond, so I did. After talking a couple of years, we met. Couple years later we got married.

It's not about appearance for me at all. I used to find androgyny attractive. I think that was just because I didn't find the culturally imposed sex roles attractive. :) Kinda drop that and you have androgyny.



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07 Jan 2009, 10:29 pm

I've probably mentioned this awhile back but pretty much my childhood was pretty much sh**e.

I hate looking at my baby / childhood pictures and even at myself in the mirror today because I strongly feel that my appearance is not me. I feel that my face is Androgynous. Not only that I look like I'm 16-18 even though I'm going to be 21 in March but I have blue eyes and barely any masculine features about me on my face.

I feel like I'm Androgynous during the day but at night, I become on either side Masculine or Feminine (I'm also bigendered).

When I want to feel free and wild when I'm out and about like I want to Rock out when listening to Rock music or what to set up a prank or joke around roughly. I guess that's my Masculine Side

Then I feel like I want to snuggle with blankets, wanting to hold cats and treat them as if I was a mother of an infaint, wanting to dress in something spiciffic, etc. I guess that's my feminine side.

I feel like I do become Feminine when I think about Masculine Tomboys. I feel the same feeling as if a feminine women was attracted to a masculine man.

I pretend before I go to bed that my pillows are my Masculine (Tom)boyfriend and my voice becomes very high pitch and I giggle and stuff like that. I don't want to scare or freak anyone out but that's one of the things that I noticed about myself.

I noticed that most heterosexual men like feminine women and they feel that they are the protector for them. I feel the other way around. I'm the submissive one wanting a protector.

Sorry, I must be confusing a lot of you right now.



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07 Jan 2009, 10:57 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Prof_Pretorius wrote:
Can't we all just get along???


Yes, but this will never be a perfect world.


How about we all hold hands and sing Koom by yah???


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