Hypothetical: assuming God's existence and aliens' existence

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iamnotaparakeet
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15 Jan 2009, 2:20 pm

If aliens exist, then what if they know God or at least about Him?

I would see two categories of ET's based off of that if aliens were to exist:

* Fallen: meaning that their parents disobeyed God initially as Adam and Eve did.
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*Innocent: meaning that they would still be uncorrupted.

Please assume, for discussion, the premises here and not argue about the axioms.



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15 Jan 2009, 2:23 pm

no, UNLESS they came to our planet and learnt of what we did
and if they are capable of planetary travel-then they would be a LOT more smart then us, and probably have a lot of answers for us
they wouldn't believe something so silly and simple



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15 Jan 2009, 2:28 pm

Hence I wrote the last sentence:

"Please assume, for discussion, the premises here and not argue about the axioms."



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15 Jan 2009, 2:30 pm

i am not arguing-actually I wrote a story about this exact thing
you wanna read it?

(I am not picking a fight here lol)
I am too sick to be mad lol



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15 Jan 2009, 2:34 pm

It might help discussion if anyone else has read Out Of The Silent Planet or Perelandra which are some of my favorite books by C.S. Lewis.



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15 Jan 2009, 2:35 pm

Kilroy wrote:
i am not arguing-actually I wrote a story about this exact thing
you wanna read it?

(I am not picking a fight here lol)
I am too sick to be mad lol


Sorry that your feeling sick. Sure, probably good
to post it here since it would be on or close-to topic.



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15 Jan 2009, 2:37 pm

whats that about



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15 Jan 2009, 2:47 pm

Kilroy wrote:
whats that about


The books by C.S. Lewis I mentioned? I put links in the text, but anyhow:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_Silent_Planet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perelandra

Or, do you mean that I said that I feel sorry that you're ill?

Or that I said it would be ok to post your story in this thread?



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15 Jan 2009, 2:49 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If aliens exist, then what if they know God or at least about Him?

I would see two categories of ET's based off of that if aliens were to exist:

* Fallen: meaning that their parents disobeyed God initially as Adam and Eve did.
and
*Innocent: meaning that they would still be uncorrupted.

Please assume, for discussion, the premises here and not argue about the axioms.


Do you truly take the Adam and Hayah story seriously? Our species emerged by evolution from other hominid species. Our animal-like nature is an integral part of our biological makeup. We are the smartest baddest apes in The Monkey House.

ruveyn



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15 Jan 2009, 2:51 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
i am not arguing-actually I wrote a story about this exact thing
you wanna read it?

(I am not picking a fight here lol)
I am too sick to be mad lol


Sorry that your feeling sick. Sure, probably good
to post it here since it would be on or close-to topic.


i pm'ed it to you, I don't want it stolen by lurkers lol



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15 Jan 2009, 3:08 pm

ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If aliens exist, then what if they know God or at least about Him?

I would see two categories of ET's based off of that if aliens were to exist:

* Fallen: meaning that their parents disobeyed God initially as Adam and Eve did.
and
*Innocent: meaning that they would still be uncorrupted.

Please assume, for discussion, the premises here and not argue about the axioms.


Do you truly take the Adam and Hayah story seriously? Our species emerged by evolution from other hominid species. Our animal-like nature is an integral part of our biological makeup. We are the smartest baddest apes in The Monkey House.

ruveyn


Yes I do take the Adam and Chawah/Chavah/Eva/Efa/Eve story seriously, and I have requested that this not be a debate about the axioms. Please respect that request.



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15 Jan 2009, 3:17 pm

ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If aliens exist, then what if they know God or at least about Him?

I would see two categories of ET's based off of that if aliens were to exist:

* Fallen: meaning that their parents disobeyed God initially as Adam and Eve did.
and
*Innocent: meaning that they would still be uncorrupted.

Please assume, for discussion, the premises here and not argue about the axioms.


Do you truly take the Adam and Hayah story seriously? Our species emerged by evolution from other hominid species. Our animal-like nature is an integral part of our biological makeup. We are the smartest baddest apes in The Monkey House.

ruveyn

He's a YEC (Young Earth Creationist). He thinks humans and monkeys were created at the same time, and had nothing to do with each other, all six thousand years ago. Even if scientific data suggests otherwise, but as he said in the first post he doesn't want this to be an argument, when he begins to doubt his views it makes him feel uncomfortable.


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15 Jan 2009, 3:21 pm

z0rp wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If aliens exist, then what if they know God or at least about Him?

I would see two categories of ET's based off of that if aliens were to exist:

* Fallen: meaning that their parents disobeyed God initially as Adam and Eve did.
and
*Innocent: meaning that they would still be uncorrupted.

Please assume, for discussion, the premises here and not argue about the axioms.


Do you truly take the Adam and Hayah story seriously? Our species emerged by evolution from other hominid species. Our animal-like nature is an integral part of our biological makeup. We are the smartest baddest apes in The Monkey House.

ruveyn

He's a YEC (Young Earth Creationist). He thinks humans and monkeys were created at the same time, and had nothing to do with each other, all six thousand years ago. Even if scientific data suggests otherwise, but as he said in the first post he doesn't want this to be an argument, when he begins to doubt his views it makes him feel uncomfortable.


Not uncomfortable, just darned annoyed to death by having to continually go over it and over it and over it for the rest of my life because people don't bother to read the previous posts.



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15 Jan 2009, 3:25 pm

Please let there be one reply that discusses this question and not it's premises.

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If aliens exist, then what if they know God or at least about Him?

I would see two categories of ET's based off of that if aliens were to exist:

* Fallen: meaning that their parents disobeyed God initially as Adam and Eve did.
and
*Innocent: meaning that they would still be uncorrupted.

Please assume, for discussion, the premises here and not argue about the axioms.



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15 Jan 2009, 3:41 pm

people are jerks man, don't let em get to ya

they would because they'd be watching us to learn about us (either for an invasion or first contact)