the king is dead long live the King
if it is meaningless then why persue it?
Prior to Obama, the only professed non protestant to be in office was JFK! JFK was Catholic. HECK, even OBAMA ******CLAIMS****** to be protestant, but Jerimiah Wright professed that blacks are superior over all, and blessed, and America was damned as a nation, from the beginning, and even now. It doesn't seem like wright says much about Jesus. Given the lack of reference to the contrary, it is obvious that Jesus was NOT black. He must have seemed semitic and/or roman. If his skin were dark, or he had coarse hair, it would have been mentioned. HECK, judas couldn't easily distinguish between Jesus and others, using words.
Catholics and Christians believe that Christ came to pay for our sins, was blameless, and is with God as an intermediary(Although Catholics believe in prayer to "the saints" and mary), and that all that believe in him are saved. ALSO, the bible says that if you believe in Jesus you should follow his commandments. I state the last about the bible, because many christians feel like wright, but they replace black with christian. So THEY recognize that blacks, hispanics, asians, etc... can be as blessed as whites. At least that is better than wrights RACIST views.
BTW you guys should have watched Rush Limbaugh on Hannity. NOPE, I usually don't watch/listen to EITHER! He had some GOOD points. He didn't like the cult following, said the idea of a black president is nice, but he got over that MONTHS ago, Obama was NOT vetted, like others were and, given his record as a senator, Rush didn't expect Obama to do anything significantly different. He said the expression in the faces of some people looking at obama is SCARY.
BTW Hannity translated Geithners statements to congress, and said he should get the book "2009 taxes for dummies". Geithner, a guy that was part of the conspiracy to destroy the US economy(as CEO of the US Federal reserve), is the one Obama picked to be the secretary of the treasury. Well, Congress in 1913 passed the 16th amendment. It authorized a certain organization to help FUND the treasury. If *I* dared go against it(The IRS), like MOST other Americans, they have promised to LOCK ME UP ****IN JAIL****! Well, GEITHNER has snubbed them for YEARS!! !! ! So he conspired to do things to impoverish Americans, cheated on his taxes, and NOW he is supposed to run the organization FUNDED, in part, by those taxes!?!?!?!? CRAZY! BTW, for the record, Geithner is WHITE! I am against him for WHO HE IS! I don't know what party he is in. I DON'T CARE! He also said he paid his taxes ONLY because he had to to become their boss!
BTW SOME would take umbrage over the idea of a conspiracy. To say otherwise, however, is to say he is INCOMPETENT! He can't win either way!
Frankly, Obama should get more heat for even CONSIDERING that jerk!
http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/refere ... index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Geithner
this show how ignorant you are about your own native his(white man's) (story), ever heard of Bury my heart and wounded Knee, too bad it isn't on the obligatory literature in your high schools, and maybe you didn't know how long Leonard Peltier (AIM leader) has been in jail on false charges (your American nelson Mandela, victim of Apartheid in America).
You know nothing about American Indian history at all, I gather
yes, teh Black Pilgrims were the worst that ovculd ever happen to them, by the way watch the Bury my heart movie made by HBO based on the book. The genocide silently continues, Lakota children continue to be ripped away from their families and are experimeted upon by the pharmaceutical industry.
First of all, you are AGAIN contradicting yourself! Wikipedia doesn't say much about AIM, but it DOES make it clear that they are troublemakers. If *I* did such things, they would probably treat me WORSE! And HECK, the American government IS being unreasonable for sentencing him to life in prison for only killing two federal agents. HECK, if I just killed a police officer, I would get the SAME sentence, EVEN if that officer was a full blooded american INDIAN!! ! Oh well, you strike me as the kind of person where, if you got aids, you would try to spread it to every straight person you could find. I guess that explains why you feel the way you do there.
As for Lakota children being experimented on, I DOUBT IT! Do you REALLY think the US is trying to kill, torture, imprison all non-whites? And HECK, a WHITE cop once threatened to shoot me because I got out of the car after he illegally stopped me! My father was hit by a cop(AGAIN, BOTH WHITE). And I have been mistreated by asians, blacks, mexicans, whites, etc....!
Somehow your pleas about such things fall on deaf ears here.
BTW Indians are not treated the best, but they ARE a protected class! They can create their OWN laws, EVEN if somewhat contrary to US or local law. They have their OWN land within the US, and apparently can buy MORE! They can get special loans and services. They have a special grievance department. They don't have to pay taxes. They CAN, if they wish, participate in the US.
Just as an example, where I am now, they were going to BUY LAND! If I bought the land, I would just get the land, and be subject to local and federal laws. *****THEY AREN'T*****! They were going to open a CASINO!(ILLEGAL HERE, but NOT ON THEIR LAND). The community actually had a vote on it, because it would change the makeup of the community. I believe they voted against it, but that gives you an idea of how things work. And the money was supposed to go to their TRIBE! They actually told the community that they would pay for the infrastructure, and mentioned how the local business would increase.
THAT is why indians sell cigarettes, and have casinos. They can easily compete, or even have a monopoly.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=in ... indian+cas
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=indian+cigarettes
So WHY do they have all that? It is an attempt to kind of makeup for what they lost, and let both cultures live together in peace. I am not saying it is perfect. FAR FROM IT! But it DOES fly in the face of many of your claims.
BLACK PILGRIMS?
this show how ignorant you are about your own native his(white man's) (story), ever heard of Bury my heart and wounded Knee, too bad it isn't on the obligatory literature in your high schools, and maybe you didn't know how long Leonard Peltier (AIM leader) has been in jail on false charges (your American nelson Mandela, victim of Apartheid in America).
You know nothing about American Indian history at all, I gather
yes, teh Black Pilgrims were the worst that ovculd ever happen to them, by the way watch the Bury my heart movie made by HBO based on the book. The genocide silently continues, Lakota children continue to be ripped away from their families and are experimeted upon by the pharmaceutical industry.
First of all, you are AGAIN contradicting yourself! Wikipedia doesn't say much about AIM, but it DOES make it clear that they are troublemakers. If *I* did such things, they would probably treat me WORSE! And HECK, the American government IS being unreasonable for sentencing him to life in prison for only killing two federal agents. HECK, if I just killed a police officer, I would get the SAME sentence, EVEN if that officer was a full blooded american INDIAN!! ! Oh well, you strike me as the kind of person where, if you got aids, you would try to spread it to every straight person you could find. I guess that explains why you feel the way you do there.
As for Lakota children being experimented on, I DOUBT IT! Do you REALLY think the US is trying to kill, torture, imprison all non-whites? And HECK, a WHITE cop once threatened to shoot me because I got out of the car after he illegally stopped me! My father was hit by a cop(AGAIN, BOTH WHITE). And I have been mistreated by asians, blacks, mexicans, whites, etc....!
Somehow your pleas about such things fall on deaf ears here.
BTW Indians are not treated the best, but they ARE a protected class! They can create their OWN laws, EVEN if somewhat contrary to US or local law. They have their OWN land within the US, and apparently can buy MORE! They can get special loans and services. They have a special grievance department. They don't have to pay taxes. They CAN, if they wish, participate in the US.
Just as an example, where I am now, they were going to BUY LAND! If I bought the land, I would just get the land, and be subject to local and federal laws. *****THEY AREN'T*****! They were going to open a CASINO!(ILLEGAL HERE, but NOT ON THEIR LAND). The community actually had a vote on it, because it would change the makeup of the community. I believe they voted against it, but that gives you an idea of how things work. And the money was supposed to go to their TRIBE! They actually told the community that they would pay for the infrastructure, and mentioned how the local business would increase.
THAT is why indians sell cigarettes, and have casinos. They can easily compete, or even have a monopoly.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=in ... indian+cas
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=indian+cigarettes
So WHY do they have all that? It is an attempt to kind of makeup for what they lost, and let both cultures live together in peace. I am not saying it is perfect. FAR FROM IT! But it DOES fly in the face of many of your claims.
BLACK PILGRIMS?
you are such a nitwit, I am not going to waste my breath on such biased and immature comments
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Heck is Hell
Darn is damned
shoot should be sh**
NOPE, ***YOU*** have been brainwashed! Old dictionaries list that s word as VULGAR! Heck is just more natural for me, as is darn. It has NOTHING to do with religion. You think christians don't swear!?!?!? ARE YOU NUTS!?!?!?!? News for you, I am one of the few I know of who REALLY speaks like this. And I have met with muslims, Jewish, Hindu, Christians, Catholics, etc....
Do you REALLY think you should swear every other word?
So don't go saying that this is because I am religious. I haven't even TOUCHED a bible in over 3 years. I never seriously tried to go to church until I was about 29, and stopped before I was 38. I never really believed, but it was one way I could TRY to get something social going. It didn't work. MOST of them swore a LOT, and I didn't even swear as a little kid.
NAH, as far as I am concerned, it was D.O.A.! I liked the first movie though!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042369/
you are such a nitwit, I am not going to waste my breath on such biased and immature comments
WOW, I struck a nerve, huh?
you'd only wished. I just see that you have the usual ideas of any average American on the topic of Native American history, which amounts to zilch knowledge
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Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 48 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
you are such a nitwit, I am not going to waste my breath on such biased and immature comments
WOW, I struck a nerve, huh?
you'd only wished. I just see that you have the usual ideas of any average American on the topic of Native American history, which amounts to zilch knowledge
That would be because they do not teach that aspect in schools, and most people do not care enough to research it on their own.
you are such a nitwit, I am not going to waste my breath on such biased and immature comments
WOW, I struck a nerve, huh?
you'd only wished. I just see that you have the usual ideas of any average American on the topic of Native American history, which amounts to zilch knowledge
That would be because they do not teach that aspect in schools, and most people do not care enough to research it on their own.
that's a lousy excuse. I am a foreigner and I read the books and information on them, so why can't you read about 'them savages'???
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You are very likely an Aspie
you are such a nitwit, I am not going to waste my breath on such biased and immature comments
WOW, I struck a nerve, huh?
you'd only wished. I just see that you have the usual ideas of any average American on the topic of Native American history, which amounts to zilch knowledge
That would be because they do not teach that aspect in schools, and most people do not care enough to research it on their own.
that's a lousy excuse. I am a foreigner and I read the books and information on them, so why can't you read about 'them savages'???
You're right, it is a lousy excuse, but its still truth, as that is the reality most people live in, as if it doesn't concern them, why learn about it. That is not my stance, but rather the stance of every NT I have ever met.
Well the King and Court confirmed the Felon Geithner to Treasury.
Killing owners for their property continued even after Chief Joesph's War, 1895, Civil Rights were not restored till 1974.
Now a days Natives have casinos and lawyers, and a few warrior groups.
Now the looting is being carried on in the banks and market, and in Washington piling debt on the future.
To me it is like putting Madoff in at Treasury.
FEMA has a Reservation picked out for you.
Or how only 200 winters ago black pilgirms smashed native american babies against brick walls because they were heathen...
No one alive now is responsible for what happened back then. Guilt is not heritable. What happened, happened. We of the present owe nothing to the descendants of those who were wronged.
ruveyn
I'm really getting a kick out of this one as both my wife and I have American Indian ancestors. My wife's father is full blood Cherokee so we have some experience with AI history and most of it from both sides of the fence has been incredibly distorted.
Right and wrong has nothing to do with it. Whoever has the superior force will eventually win. That's just a fact of life everywhere.
Just wait until the aliens land here.
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you are such a nitwit, I am not going to waste my breath on such biased and immature comments
WOW, I struck a nerve, huh?
you'd only wished. I just see that you have the usual ideas of any average American on the topic of Native American history, which amounts to zilch knowledge
That would be because they do not teach that aspect in schools, and most people do not care enough to research it on their own.
OK, tell me something TRUE, and MATERIAL that I don't know that has to do with ANY of the garbage you spout? HECK, I suppose you want to try to make me believe EVERY lie said by EVERY liberal idiot and organization around and force me to believe that this planet would be HEAVEN if only no white person existed. Of course, I guess men are the cause of all problems ANYWAY.
AND, frankly, I never had anything against any American Indian. I never kept a slave, or even cheated anyone. I figure I am only about a fourth or fifth generation american. It seems NONE of my relatives kept slaves. I haven't heard of any cheating anyone. I am NOT independently wealthy, and just want to live my life. Yet stupid liberals come out and say I should pay them EVEN FROM MY SAVINGS. And frankly, I have nothing but contempt for such people, and many of the liberals seem to be intentionally, or not, acting to help them.
And if obama is SO great, smart, perfect, and helpful, WHY did he suggest geithner? And what idiot will he get to replace geithner?
Oh yeah, I am not going to swear just because people tell me too. People saying that I don't do it because I am brainwashed create a paradox by demanding that I swear, since my doing such would be complying with THEIR wishes and doing just what they say I will avoid by doing it.
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