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13 Jun 2009, 4:26 pm

The 48 Laws of Power
by Robert Greene and Joost Elffers

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I came across this used book called the The 48 Laws of power. When I had a quick read of it, I was very surprised to realise that this is the very book that I was looking for. It is a guide to acquire power the most efficient way possible. This book makes apparent why Aspies have such bad luck in an NT world; they generally don’t or will not follow any of these rules of power, they are generally not that manipulative.
I think that aspies can gain from reading this book as some of these laws don’t strategy based and do not require tactical wit and social skill to pull off. I myself had had it with the NTs romantic crap about integrity, when many, themselves, do not have any. Turn to the dark side and buy my book at
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/0733614973/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1244928169&sr=8-13&condition=used

OR get a much cheaper one by typing "The 48 Laws of Power" into amazon search engine. OK I have a lot to learn. Here are some of my favorite laws.

Law 3
Conceal your Intentions
Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. If they have no clue what you are up to, they cannot prepare a defense. Guide them far enough down the wrong path, envelope them in enough smoke, and by the time they realize your intentions, it will be too late.
Law 4
Always Say Less than Necessary
When you are trying to impress people with words, the more you say, the more common you appear, and the less in control. Even if you are saying something banal, it will seem original if you make it vague, open-ended, and sphinxlike. Powerful people impress and intimidate by saying less. The more you say, the more likely you are to say something foolish.
Law 5
So Much Depends on Reputation – Guard it with your Life
Reputation is the cornerstone of power. Through reputation alone you can intimidate and win; once you slip, however, you are vulnerable, and will be attacked on all sides. Make your reputation unassailable. Always be alert to potential attacks and thwart them before they happen. Meanwhile, learn to destroy your enemies by opening holes in their own reputations. Then stand aside and let public opinion hang them.
Law 7
Get others to do the Work for you, but Always Take the Credit
Use the wisdom, knowledge, and legwork of other people to further your own cause. Not only will such assistance save you valuable time and energy, it will give you a godlike aura of efficiency and speed. In the end your helpers will be forgotten and you will be remembered. Never do yourself what others can do for you.
Law 11
Learn to Keep People Dependent on You
To maintain your independence you must always be needed and wanted. The more you are relied on, the more freedom you have. Make people depend on you for their happiness and prosperity and you have nothing to fear. Never teach them enough so that they can do without you.
Law 13
When Asking for Help, Appeal to People’s Self-Interest,
Never to their Mercy or Gratitude
If you need to turn to an ally for help, do not bother to remind him of your past assistance and good deeds. He will find a way to ignore you. Instead, uncover something in your request, or in your alliance with him, that will benefit him, and emphasize it out of all proportion. He will respond enthusiastically when he sees something to be gained for himself.
Law 14
Pose as a Friend, Work as a Spy
Knowing about your rival is critical. Use spies to gather valuable information that will keep you a step ahead. Better still: Play the spy yourself. In polite social encounters, learn to probe. Ask indirect questions to get people to reveal their weaknesses and intentions. There is no occasion that is not an opportunity for artful spying.
Law 21
Play a Sucker to Catch a Sucker – Seem Dumber than your Mark
No one likes feeling stupider than the next persons. The trick, is to make your victims feel smart – and not just smart, but smarter than you are. Once convinced of this, they will never suspect that you may have ulterior motives.



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13 Jun 2009, 4:45 pm

Quote:
It is a guide to acquire power the most efficient way possible.


Get rich by selling self help books for 10x more than they are worth.
£45.21 USED

Don't think so.



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13 Jun 2009, 5:08 pm

I guess I don't care about being powerful. I'd rather like myself.



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13 Jun 2009, 5:23 pm

I don't know, I've come across some mean and manipulative aspies. I don't think they're any nicer than NTs IMO.


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13 Jun 2009, 5:31 pm

It's just as I was reading all the how- to be powerful info I knew I could never pull it off most simply because it's too much work. Can you imagine how emotionally exhausting all that would be?



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13 Jun 2009, 5:37 pm

I've tried everything in my power to be at least "normal" in a sense when it comes to being extraverted and social I felt like it was a waste of my time since I really didn't enjoy the company I was surrounded by. I've never been all that great with competing in the peking order. I don't really see that grass being all that green on the other side of the fence....that's at least been my experience with life.

Very exhausting....it's like hiding in the closet... :lol:


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13 Jun 2009, 6:28 pm

better pic for OP :wink:

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but yeah. For this thread, the 48 laws of seductions are more appropriate.


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13 Jun 2009, 8:43 pm

Aimless wrote:
I guess I don't care about being powerful. I'd rather like myself.
Same here. But it's helpful to understand that most people play those games.
I spent too many years giving people the benefit of the doubt.



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13 Jun 2009, 9:18 pm

I'm not sure most people play those kinds of games. Those 48 rules of Power sound more like a sociopath's handbook to me.



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13 Jun 2009, 9:44 pm

gangbangers are taught this poison in prison by other gang members. this is sociopathic at it's worst.



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13 Jun 2009, 10:27 pm

Amen to all the sociopathic lines... sometimes those stores about "manipulative aspies" i keep hearing about are the ones that read this and treat it as gospel...



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13 Jun 2009, 10:29 pm

Aimless wrote:
I'm not sure most people play those kinds of games. Those 48 rules of Power sound more like a sociopath's handbook to me.
Some are just more sociopathic than others. If you think someone's playing you, you're probably right. You're not being paranoid. When people get mad at you for stupid stuff, it's usually because they're playing some game and you're not cooperating. Like the hunter or fisher who gets mad at the one that gets away.



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13 Jun 2009, 11:20 pm

if only those "laws" were used wisely... if only i had the means to force humanity into being something other than a bunch of sheep >_>

but really, sociopathic or not, if people cant think and have to use a book like this then, the author did his job and made his profits. Its just for every book sold, another f**ktard is created IF they start obeying the book.

and yes, there are assholish aspies like myself who just sit behind the scenes and laugh at the misery sown by the people who follow the book.


<if you cant distinquish the sarcasm, it isnt my fault you are offended, since as a general rule of thumb, 99% of what i say/type is infused with my own brand of sarcasm. I shall not hold myself guilty as i find that people who get offended easily just need to grow thicker skin. If therefore someone does play the guilt trip, they shall have to sing monty pythons spam song while delivering me a shrubbery>


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13 Jun 2009, 11:46 pm

DemonAbyss10 wrote:


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<if you cant distinquish the sarcasm, it isnt my fault you are offended, since as a general rule of thumb, 99% of what i say/type is infused with my own brand of sarcasm. I shall not hold myself guilty as i find that people who get offended easily just need to grow thicker skin. If therefore someone does play the guilt trip, they shall have to sing monty pythons spam song while delivering me a shrubbery>


Amen to that.

I seem to offend both aspies and neurotypicals without realizing.


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13 Jun 2009, 11:47 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
I seem to offend both aspies and neurotypicals without realizing.


Without realizing is completely different than with malevolent intent... there's a reason that manslaughter is a lesser charge than murder...



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14 Jun 2009, 12:01 am

MissConstrue wrote:
I seem to offend both aspies and neurotypicals without realizing.



lucky you have someone like me around who is a pain in the ass to offend :D

but yeah, i have that issue as well, hence the disclaimer.... i think i was gonna put it in a #2 text before just to see if anyone would have noticed... but i forget the css code for it...


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