Do you believe you are smarter than most other people?

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Do you believe you are smarter than most other people?
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No 26%  26%  [ 30 ]
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26 Jul 2012, 1:22 pm

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Yes, I have a high IQ, but at the same time I feel like a complete moron. I might be good with academics, but throw me in a room full of people and I have no idea how to start conversation or keep it going. Pair that with my monotone voice and seemingly expressionless face and tendency to be bad at following directions and I think people must think I am mentally handicapped. Then I remember I somewhat am (socially) and I feel more insecure than ever.
It hurts to see people who did worse than me throughout my academic career surpass me in life on so many different levels just because they have good social skills.
I would trade in some IQ points for emotional and social intelligence any day.


I agree 100%... your story exactly the same as mine. It hurts to have to serve morons earning 2-3 times my salary purely on their ability to make friends in the right places.



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26 Jul 2012, 4:35 pm

In terms of cognitive intelligence, yes. Much smarter than almost anyone I've ever met. I started speaking when I was just a few months old, and I had normal conversations when most of the people my age were just filling diapers, crying and burping. I could even read most letters in the alphabet before I could sit up, and started reading normal books by the time I was a toddler. The first few classes of primary school were extremely easy, because I could just sit back and relax, or learn a second language, while the rest were learning how to read and write.

In terms of emotional intelligence, I'm about as close to a vegetable as you can get.



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27 Jul 2012, 10:03 am

ruveyn wrote:
b9 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
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if someone has an IQ of 101, then they are smarter than "most" of the population.



No. It means they have scored better on the tests.

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they scored better on the tests for a reason. if that reason is pre-familiarization with the questions, then their score is void, and i was not talking about void results.

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That is a supposition on your part. Where is the hard proof?


i believe intelligence is purely "problem solving ability". that is the flavor of my intelligence.
one can say that the problems that i solve are the barriers to my understanding of what i am curious about.

i place more credit in IQ tests than you do, because i can see how the design of the questions are intentionally cryptic to varying degrees.

in my previous post i was being reasonably literal in interpreting "most" as greater than 50%.

if 500,000 people are given a puzzle box to open, and if the criteria of the test are 1. the ability to think of a way to open the box, and 2. the time taken to think of that way, then
if 250,100 people (the majority) solved how to open the box, then the next level of assessment is of the measurement of the time taken to solve the problem.

249,900 people are dismissed from further consideration because they took infinite time (> 1 hour (or some other arbitrary period of time)) to solve the box, and from the 250,100 who solved it, their solving times would rank them in order of intelligence i would imagine.
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Can you document what you say from objective unimpeachable sources?
no. it is simply my opinion that is compiled from my experience of being extensively studied as a child. i have no links to show that what i say is just a parrots utterance.

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If you can't then you are blowing hot air.

it is better to blow than to suck.



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27 Jul 2012, 2:41 pm

It depends. I can solve most technical problems with ease and anything involving logic I seem to have an easy time with. However, socially I am quite inept. I still debate if this is because I have Asperger's Syndrome or if I don't have Asperger's and I just had bad social experiences all of my life and no ability to fit in due to low self-esteem. However, I do know that I am not very good at large scale social interactions with people I don't already know. Need someone to explain something complex and technical? I am your man. A girl likes me and wants to make mad, passionate love to me? I'll never know unless she explicitly tells me. Even then, I probably won't believe her.


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27 Jul 2012, 3:50 pm

IQ tests only prove that you are better than other people at certain mathematical issues. It is no indication that said person can, say, pass geometry, understand trigonometry, assemble a puzzle, solve a puzzle, paint the Mona Lisa, write a book, learn 7 different languages, understand advanced organic chemistry, create a batch of pure Acetone, climb a tree, play the guitar or piano, etc. It only proves that that person is better at certain mathematical issues.

It's about a stupid as giving a group of people a flute, and saying that the one who plays it best is the smartest, or that whoever speaks the most languages is the smartest.


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29 Jul 2012, 6:10 am

muslimmetalhead wrote:
I have a slightly above average IQ, but I am an emotional ret*d so I generally look and feel pretty f***ing stupid.


Best answer yet.

Worst unofficial IQ result when drunk - 128
Official IQ test result - 134
Best online IQ result - 138

Despite this relatives have to explain when a two year old wants to play with me because I'm too socially clueless to figure it out so I don't think I would actually register as alive on a test of 'emotional intelligence'. :lol:



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29 Jul 2012, 6:53 am

BlueMax wrote:

I agree 100%... your story exactly the same as mine. It hurts to have to serve morons earning 2-3 times my salary purely on their ability to make friends in the right places.


So cultivate friends in the right places. No one is stopping you.

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29 Jul 2012, 7:49 am

the phrase "cultivate friends" has always amused me.
i have thought of the process before, and my ideology of the steps involved in "friend cultivation" takes on a rather comical flavor that influences my further ideological development of the idea.

can i get a bag of "friend seeds"?
if i can not, then i can not sow the seeds so i can not cultivate friends.
if i did get a genuine bag of "friend seeds" , then what would i feed them after they were planted? horse s**t? what would promote their growth?

so if i sprinkle the field planted with "friend" seeds with fertilizer, then i should have many friends sprouting forth i would guess in time. but when it comes to harvest time, what do i do with them? there is no market for them any more.



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29 Jul 2012, 8:19 am

I've been told that I'm very intelligent, but I really doubt it.



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29 Jul 2012, 8:40 am

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I've been told that I'm very intelligent, but I really doubt it.

if you have been told that you are "very intelligent", and you doubt it for your own personal reasons, then you should query whoever told you you were "very intelligent" and pin them down as to why they said that.
maybe they are making an observation, or maybe they are baiting a hook.



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29 Jul 2012, 8:48 am

It's been more than one person. I was told by someone that I am because of the way I speak, the way I respond to things, my abilities, and so on. I still don't really see it. The people who've told me I believe are much more intelligent than I could ever be.



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29 Jul 2012, 8:50 am

b9 wrote:
the phrase "cultivate friends" has always amused me.
i have thought of the process before, and my ideology of the steps involved in "friend cultivation" takes on a rather comical flavor that influences my further ideological development of the idea.

can i get a bag of "friend seeds"?
if i can not, then i can not sow the seeds so i can not cultivate friends.
if i did get a genuine bag of "friend seeds" , then what would i feed them after they were planted? horse sh**? what would promote their growth?

so if i sprinkle the field planted with "friend" seeds with fertilizer, then i should have many friends sprouting forth i would guess in time. but when it comes to harvest time, what do i do with them? there is no market for them any more.


I haven't even heard of that phrase before until I read it in this thread. Sounds fun.



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29 Jul 2012, 8:54 am

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tourettebassist wrote:
I'm a Mensan, but can't figure out how to use my intelligence, so I feel 'middle of the road'.


Me too. It's quite discouraging. I like to think of the Einstein quote:
"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to swim, it will spend its entire life believing it is stupid."

I just haven't found my "swim" yet.


I can't swim at all; I'd drown, no doubt.



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29 Jul 2012, 12:35 pm

I guess I am. I mean, I don't feel it, but everybody else says it.

But I don't think an IQ of only 149 counts :wink:



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29 Jul 2012, 9:54 pm

I am not smarter than a fifth grader!


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29 Jul 2012, 10:19 pm

Everyone tells me I'm smart, but I feel like a bumbling idiot. I think that people assume that because someone is socially "off", they are intelligent. I also think they are wrong at least 80% of the time.