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17 Apr 2014, 8:28 pm

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I know that Fox Studios and Marvel are allowed to use both Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, on the condition that the Avengers version can't make any reference to Magneto or being mutants. And Fox can't make any reference to them being Avengers or anything like that.


That sucks poop.


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17 Apr 2014, 11:42 pm

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"Y'all"??


I purposely spell it ya'll in memory of my deceased mom. I know that technically the apostrophe should be where the "ou" of "you" should be, but my mom would always spell it ya'll, and I have copied her habit as a form of remembrance.


Oh, I see. Please accept my sincerest apologies - I misconstrued that for something less benign.



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18 Apr 2014, 1:09 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
I know that Fox Studios and Marvel are allowed to use both Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, on the condition that the Avengers version can't make any reference to Magneto or being mutants. And Fox can't make any reference to them being Avengers or anything like that.


That sucks poop.


Indeed, it also sucks that there'll likely be no X-Men vs Avengers type of crossover movie unless the studios come to an agreement, which would take forever.



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18 Apr 2014, 1:31 am

micfranklin wrote:
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micfranklin wrote:
I know that Fox Studios and Marvel are allowed to use both Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, on the condition that the Avengers version can't make any reference to Magneto or being mutants. And Fox can't make any reference to them being Avengers or anything like that.


That sucks poop.


Indeed, it also sucks that there'll likely be no X-Men vs Avengers type of crossover movie unless the studios come to an agreement, which would take forever.


I wonder if an appeal from Marvel would matter.


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18 Apr 2014, 9:34 am

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micfranklin wrote:
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micfranklin wrote:
I know that Fox Studios and Marvel are allowed to use both Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, on the condition that the Avengers version can't make any reference to Magneto or being mutants. And Fox can't make any reference to them being Avengers or anything like that.


That sucks poop.


Indeed, it also sucks that there'll likely be no X-Men vs Avengers type of crossover movie unless the studios come to an agreement, which would take forever.


I wonder if an appeal from Marvel would matter.


Don't know. One thing I do know is that the rights to lesser movies like Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider and a few others fell back to Marvel/Disney so they can always remake those in a better light.



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18 Apr 2014, 11:51 pm

micfranklin wrote:
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micfranklin wrote:
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micfranklin wrote:
I know that Fox Studios and Marvel are allowed to use both Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, on the condition that the Avengers version can't make any reference to Magneto or being mutants. And Fox can't make any reference to them being Avengers or anything like that.


That sucks poop.


Indeed, it also sucks that there'll likely be no X-Men vs Avengers type of crossover movie unless the studios come to an agreement, which would take forever.


I wonder if an appeal from Marvel would matter.


Don't know. One thing I do know is that the rights to lesser movies like Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider and a few others fell back to Marvel/Disney so they can always remake those in a better light.


I wouldn't bet on it anytime soon. Look at what happened the last time multiple studios worked on a film together. We ended up with Cowboys vs Aliens, which was considered a financial loss as it barely made back the money Universal, Paramount, Dreamworks, Relativity Media, Platinum Studios and others I can't remember right now put into.



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19 Apr 2014, 10:29 am

BlankCanvas wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
I know that Fox Studios and Marvel are allowed to use both Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, on the condition that the Avengers version can't make any reference to Magneto or being mutants. And Fox can't make any reference to them being Avengers or anything like that.


That sucks poop.


Indeed, it also sucks that there'll likely be no X-Men vs Avengers type of crossover movie unless the studios come to an agreement, which would take forever.


I wonder if an appeal from Marvel would matter.


Don't know. One thing I do know is that the rights to lesser movies like Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider and a few others fell back to Marvel/Disney so they can always remake those in a better light.


I wouldn't bet on it anytime soon. Look at what happened the last time multiple studios worked on a film together. We ended up with Cowboys vs Aliens, which was considered a financial loss as it barely made back the money Universal, Paramount, Dreamworks, Relativity Media, Platinum Studios and others I can't remember right now put into.


But I don't think that many people were as excited about that movie, as the number that would be pumped to see a Marvel crossover type of movie.



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20 Apr 2014, 5:22 am

micfranklin wrote:
BlankCanvas wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
I know that Fox Studios and Marvel are allowed to use both Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, on the condition that the Avengers version can't make any reference to Magneto or being mutants. And Fox can't make any reference to them being Avengers or anything like that.


That sucks poop.


Indeed, it also sucks that there'll likely be no X-Men vs Avengers type of crossover movie unless the studios come to an agreement, which would take forever.


I wonder if an appeal from Marvel would matter.


Don't know. One thing I do know is that the rights to lesser movies like Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider and a few others fell back to Marvel/Disney so they can always remake those in a better light.


I wouldn't bet on it anytime soon. Look at what happened the last time multiple studios worked on a film together. We ended up with Cowboys vs Aliens, which was considered a financial loss as it barely made back the money Universal, Paramount, Dreamworks, Relativity Media, Platinum Studios and others I can't remember right now put into.


But I don't think that many people were as excited about that movie, as the number that would be pumped to see a Marvel crossover type of movie.


From what I heard, Cowboys and Aliens wasn't really based off a pre-existing franchise so your argument does raise a very valid point.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what transpires and whether Disney/Marvel Studio's gamble pays off a second time. From what I understand of the current situation, the other companies holding onto their respective rights aren't looking to budge anytime soon - ie. Sony's much-rumoured Sinister Six and Venom spin-off movies (once Andrew Garfield's Spiderman trilogy contract is complete); and FOX still ploughing ahead with their Fantastic Four revival.

That said, despite my own sceptism, I'd be stupid to entirely rule out a crossover coming to frutition at some point in the future. So yes, you're right. After all, Paramount gave in (which I thought was kind of strange considering how much better recieved Iron Man 3 was over Iron Man 2...). At any rate, we can all agree that these days it's a very good time to be a superhero fan, right?



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20 Apr 2014, 11:14 am

BlankCanvas wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
BlankCanvas wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
I know that Fox Studios and Marvel are allowed to use both Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, on the condition that the Avengers version can't make any reference to Magneto or being mutants. And Fox can't make any reference to them being Avengers or anything like that.


That sucks poop.


Indeed, it also sucks that there'll likely be no X-Men vs Avengers type of crossover movie unless the studios come to an agreement, which would take forever.


I wonder if an appeal from Marvel would matter.


Don't know. One thing I do know is that the rights to lesser movies like Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider and a few others fell back to Marvel/Disney so they can always remake those in a better light.


I wouldn't bet on it anytime soon. Look at what happened the last time multiple studios worked on a film together. We ended up with Cowboys vs Aliens, which was considered a financial loss as it barely made back the money Universal, Paramount, Dreamworks, Relativity Media, Platinum Studios and others I can't remember right now put into.


But I don't think that many people were as excited about that movie, as the number that would be pumped to see a Marvel crossover type of movie.


From what I heard, Cowboys and Aliens wasn't really based off a pre-existing franchise so your argument does raise a very valid point.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what transpires and whether Disney/Marvel Studio's gamble pays off a second time. From what I understand of the current situation, the other companies holding onto their respective rights aren't looking to budge anytime soon - ie. Sony's much-rumoured Sinister Six and Venom spin-off movies (once Andrew Garfield's Spiderman trilogy contract is complete); and FOX still ploughing ahead with their Fantastic Four revival.

That said, despite my own sceptism, I'd be stupid to entirely rule out a crossover coming to frutition at some point in the future. So yes, you're right. After all, Paramount gave in (which I thought was kind of strange considering how much better recieved Iron Man 3 was over Iron Man 2...). At any rate, we can all agree that these days it's a very good time to be a superhero fan, right?


Another thing is that Marvel has said it's got movies lined up until 2028, so we've got 14 years minimum worth of material to wait and look through. I doubt there'll be an Iron Man 6 there but I've heard Doctor Strange and Black Panther being possibilities.



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20 Apr 2014, 1:41 pm

micfranklin wrote:
BlankCanvas wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
BlankCanvas wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
micfranklin wrote:
I know that Fox Studios and Marvel are allowed to use both Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, on the condition that the Avengers version can't make any reference to Magneto or being mutants. And Fox can't make any reference to them being Avengers or anything like that.


That sucks poop.


Indeed, it also sucks that there'll likely be no X-Men vs Avengers type of crossover movie unless the studios come to an agreement, which would take forever.


I wonder if an appeal from Marvel would matter.


Don't know. One thing I do know is that the rights to lesser movies like Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider and a few others fell back to Marvel/Disney so they can always remake those in a better light.


I wouldn't bet on it anytime soon. Look at what happened the last time multiple studios worked on a film together. We ended up with Cowboys vs Aliens, which was considered a financial loss as it barely made back the money Universal, Paramount, Dreamworks, Relativity Media, Platinum Studios and others I can't remember right now put into.


But I don't think that many people were as excited about that movie, as the number that would be pumped to see a Marvel crossover type of movie.


From what I heard, Cowboys and Aliens wasn't really based off a pre-existing franchise so your argument does raise a very valid point.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what transpires and whether Disney/Marvel Studio's gamble pays off a second time. From what I understand of the current situation, the other companies holding onto their respective rights aren't looking to budge anytime soon - ie. Sony's much-rumoured Sinister Six and Venom spin-off movies (once Andrew Garfield's Spiderman trilogy contract is complete); and FOX still ploughing ahead with their Fantastic Four revival.

That said, despite my own sceptism, I'd be stupid to entirely rule out a crossover coming to frutition at some point in the future. So yes, you're right. After all, Paramount gave in (which I thought was kind of strange considering how much better recieved Iron Man 3 was over Iron Man 2...). At any rate, we can all agree that these days it's a very good time to be a superhero fan, right?


Another thing is that Marvel has said it's got movies lined up until 2028, so we've got 14 years minimum worth of material to wait and look through. I doubt there'll be an Iron Man 6 there but I've heard Doctor Strange and Black Panther being possibilities.


Has that been validated by an official source, like a press statement or something? Not doubting your integrity, it's just you know how it is with rumours and misconstrued information on the Internet.



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21 Apr 2014, 9:38 am

Yep, right here:

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Just in case anyone had doubts that Marvel Studios is committed to its cinematic universe for the long haul, President Kevin Feige recently revealed there are currently plans for movies through 2028.

The reveal came as a result of a profile Bloomberg Businessweek did on Feige and his work with Marvel Studios throughout the years. The interviewer took special notice of a map on the wall of Feige’s Burbank, Calif., office that outlines the studios current plans for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

“It’s like looking through the Hubble telescope. You go, ‘What’s happening back there? I can sort of see it,’” Feige said. “They printed out a new one recently that went to 2028.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/0 ... 91810.html


Too bad even they admit they won't get rights to X-Men or Spider-man in the near future.



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22 Apr 2014, 7:13 am

Can you imagine if this actually became a reality one day?

http://9gag.com/gag/aPvdbxR



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22 Apr 2014, 11:27 am

micfranklin wrote:
Yep, right here:

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Just in case anyone had doubts that Marvel Studios is committed to its cinematic universe for the long haul, President Kevin Feige recently revealed there are currently plans for movies through 2028.

The reveal came as a result of a profile Bloomberg Businessweek did on Feige and his work with Marvel Studios throughout the years. The interviewer took special notice of a map on the wall of Feige’s Burbank, Calif., office that outlines the studios current plans for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

“It’s like looking through the Hubble telescope. You go, ‘What’s happening back there? I can sort of see it,’” Feige said. “They printed out a new one recently that went to 2028.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/0 ... 91810.html


Too bad even they admit they won't get rights to X-Men or Spider-man in the near future.


Thanks for that link, much appreciated. I was worried it was an entry off someone's "I heard from a friend of a friend" Tweet or blog or something, so a validated news source like Huffington Post was very reassuring to read. Thanks again.