Ren and Stimpy: good show or twisted subversiveness?

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I for one think it was ahead of its time. There were parts that scared me as a child, but nowadays i laugh. Except. Space. Madness.
If there's any particular cartoon that's etched itself into the fabric of my soul, its R&S.
I had a dream once about Ren and Stimpy.
Its where Ren and Stimpy are eating breakfast on a saturday and Stimpy is trying to make toast. The toaster is bugging out though and Ren is trying to fix it. Meanwhile, Stimpy is doing the whole exaggerated sad expression and he says ''Where's my toast?!''

Ren finally loses his temper and smashes the toaster and goes bat crazy insane.
then Ren starts crying and says that maybe they should've eaten oatmeal.
Its weird, I know There are other R&S dreams

I loved watching that show as a kid.

I loved it. I think it was better than the "gross" shows that came after it.

i don't know what John K. was thinking when he did the Adult Party cartoons for Spike. They're not funny, they're just gross! Stimpy's pregnant barf*

ah, I loved Ren and Stimpy back in the day.

and subversiveness would imply they were trying to undermine someone's efforts in accomplishing something or become a hindrance thereto.

Sorry LOL! I read about them being subversive in an article once, and I thought that kind of fit them. They seemed to have this cool style of undermining what people thought of cartoons.

"good show or twisted subversiveness"?

Are the two exclusive?

It is used differently sometimes when referring to art, although I don't suppose I'm sure what it really means. The context sounds right for calling Ren and Stimpy it though. I'm thinking usually art which challenges the norms of society (moral, aesthetic, etc), but in a wry way? Darn it, I don't know. But I've heard it used in the way windscar15 did.

Hey! Love your avatar. That's vampyroteuthis, right?

So, what are Ren and Stimpy trying to subvert? Ah, I know; the minds of children.

It is one of my favorite shows of all time!! !

John Kricfalusi was indeed ahead of his time. George Liquor was a creation of his that would've been huge during the 90s, but never came to be due to complaints concerning political correctness during that time period. Some people have a hard time understanding the purpose of humor.