"Hatred" reveal trailer... *discussion*

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV3PhvCf_Jg

The goal of the game is just simply to kill people. The main character hates people, so you play as him, releasing all your furstration and hatred onto society.

Violence in video games is nothing new. The only thing is that this trailer shows no real context for the violence. It's simply hatred in general. GTA (crime oriented, but tongue in cheek), postal (same), Manhunt (violence for the sake of violence), mortal kombat (competition of combatants that willingly join). This one is about killing because of hate.

So what do you think?

I personally am sort of okay with this. I mean, there is going to be a lot of talk and controversy over this game for one simple reason. But context or not, it doesn't change the fact that people play GTA online just to shoot pedestrians, hold up convenience stores, and steal cars from the comfort of their own home. What difference does this make, really? Tongue in cheek or not, GTA makes a game out of criminal activity anyway.

....ugh, not one of THESE again.

This looks like another game specifically designed because some idiot publisher thinks that "controversy" sells.

It's exactly this sort of crap that gives gaming such a bad reputation to many that are not actually into it, because they end up thinking that stuff like this is what it's all about.

Idiotic.

It's just a game. I remember all the hysteria surrounding GTA and Carmageddon back in the day. I hate it when the overly sensitives go over board over everything like this. Anyone who takes a game seriously (either in reacting to it or copying it) have serious problems IMO, and that has nothing to do with the game.

@ Misery: of course controversy sells.
If it hadn't been for the hysteria around GTA we wouldn't have gotten the game. (Talk about much ado over nothing by the way!) Both my father and I wanted to try it because of that.

Yes, but that's my point. Nothing good ever comes from the idiots that always go around bashing stuff like this in a "political rampage" form, or bashing the industry as a whole. It only does damage, and the more often it happens, the closer we get towards someone actually truly DOING something effective about it. THAT is my problem with it. I dont actually give a rat's ass about the game myself. It looks boring. GTA bores me as well. About as creative as a brick. I'll always go with something like Goat Simulator instead when I want some chaos since there's WAY more variety with that one.

I think it's a horrid looking game and an awful trailer, not to mention the people behind the game are actual neo-nazis (which explains the killing of minorities and women primarily in the game, trenchcoat, etc.)

This is equivalent to Postal, a game that should not exist and serves no purpose. Hopefully Valve and GOG refuse the game on their services, as with any other platform.

....wait, what? Really?

Just.... argh. I'd thought this issue wasnt going to get stupider. I was wrong. Ugh. If that's true, then indeed, Valve and others should refuse to carry that.

It looks like Postal/Postal 2 without the sense of humor. I'm still trying to unroll my eyeballs after listening to that cringe-worthy main character manifesto.

I think it could be an interesting premise for a game if there is a plot twist later on that changes depending on the actions you've taken throughout your journey...but if the whole game is just 100% mass murder for no reason, then that seems like it would get boring fast. I couldn't even play the Postal 2 demo for very long without uninstalling it.

I do like the oldschool overhead isometric view in a lot of the shots.

Edit: Just read the Wiki article on it:

...uh...what rock are they living under?

Any source on the devs being neo-nazis?

as soon as i watched the trailer i thought "This is why the Media make jabs at video games making kids violent"

Wow, that video was disgusting.

"The same children whom are allowed to play Grand Theft Auto aged well under 17 will undoubtedly have access to Hatred and what then? Columbine? Sandyhook? Boston? Any of these words ringing a bell? Video games are certainly not to blame, but games like this are most definitely influences as they're presented in such a cavalier manner." - Valenka at n4g.com

Reference to full blog post: http://n4g.com/user/blogpost/valenka/530836

This is exactly what I'm talking about, the fact this game is going to be made is just going to start the media up again about violence in video games.

Also, I want to get into some more detail here. I don't believe games are the main culprits in such matters but I most definitely believe they are, in a sense, a form of Desensitization. By this, I mean that it makes things such as gore and violence less gruesome towards the minds of the afflicted. In a sense, a twisted person will become even more twisted and before we know it, The Joker is walking around the city causing mass terror.

The point is, If this game is accepted onto Steam, or other such big name game distribution site, games as we know it will be ruined. A new age of gaming is on the horizon and it's not a pretty sight. Censorship will be hitting a new low and you just have to hope you'll be allowed to continue playing the games you already have. Let us just hope that this game will be stopped in all its evil.

"The developer described Hatred's as a reaction to video game aesthetic trends such as political correctness, politeness, vivid color, and games as art."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatred_(video_game)

I had difficulty watching the trailer - it sounds like this game goes a bit far imo.

It is going to far. The gaming industry is designed to let you live your fantasies, relax, feel adrenaline or the like, this is just violence under the guise of a game. I am not entirely surprised that Epic wished for Destructive Creations to remove the whole "Powered by Unreal engine" from the loading screen. No company in their right mind would want to be associated to a terrorist simulator. The fact of the matter is that this is going to be a scar on gaming history and i can't believe I'm saying this but mortal combat looks tame compared to this bull s**t, and just look at the stir that got originally (and a little bit to this day).

Games are getting more violent and graphic as time goes on, the thing is, this is actually impeding actual ground breaking developments in the gaming industry. Developments such as Virtual Reality will be shunned and graphics will be cut simply due to ethics and the idea that people will think it becomes too life like and that people will be unable to tell the difference between games and reality.

Point is, this game is bad for the world of gaming and should never see the light of day. Even to a hipsters standards.

Holy f**k. For the first minute I had a hard time taking it seriously, but then I kind of realized that this game actually seems kinda disturbing. Normally, games like this (such as GTA, Carmageddon, Postal, etc.) are offset with a fair amount of humor, but this game seems to lack that element. Of course, cold-blooded killing is nothing new for gaming, there are many games with a semi-serious tone that allow you to kill unarmed civilians. It's also nothing new for the film industry, there are probably a fair number of films out there that are similar to this game in their depiction of cold-blooded carnage. Uwe Boll's film "Rampage" comes to mind, though it does have a slightly humoristic edge.

A lot of people say that games like this are just wrong, that they shouldn't be made, but I'd argue that the idea of exploring darker themes is just a sign that gaming is starting to mature as an art form.

Will I play it? Judging by the research I've done, I won't. Apparently some of the developers support neo-Nazi or other hate organizations. Violence in art is one thing, but supporting real-life hatred and violence is NOT something I stand for. Now, if this game wasn't made by people who supported hate groups, then I'd be more likely to play it.

I will admit that this game piqued my interest, until I found out the nature behind its development.

Neo-Nazis =


For similar reasons, I make a point of boycotting Varg Vikernes' black metal project "Burzum". I heard some of the music once by accident in a Youtube video, and I found it interesting, but I would never buy any of his albums, nor would I indirectly support him by downloading them. People say to seperate the music from the artist, and that the music itself doesn't contain any racist themes, but I'm not gonna support it.