Ashley Madison and the moral high ground

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It's actually worse then that. Those who rationalize the behaviors of these hackers as having contributed something positive to society are saying that sexual sin is a justifiable basis to ruin human relationships. To ruin families. To ruin marriages. To ruin business partnerships. And the hackers did this on a scale of millions.

Sorry, but those people chose to cheat on their spouse, getting caught was always a possibility. Those hackers didn't ruin anyone's relationship, the customers of Ashley Madison ruined their own relationships the moment they signed up with such a seedy site. If they truly valued their relationships they wouldn't have been looking for ways to erode them. This is why I'm interested in the lawsuits against Ashley Madison-- most of their customers assumed privacy, but the fact is that they were posting personally identifiable information in a public place. I feel no pity for someone lying to their family and then getting caught, especially doing it in such a moronic way. I mean if you can't handle monogamy you always have the option of not getting married in the first place. If you lie, steal, cheat, etc. and get caught it really doesn't matter how it happened, you have no one to blame but yourself-- don't do the crime if you can't do the time. The only real victims here are the spouses of the cheaters, they were cheated on and now have to deal with it in a public way.

The whole situation stinks.

The people who hacked the website are just as bad as the users and the owners of the website. Everyone involved - owner, user, and hacker - is some kind of self-serving creep who never expected to be caught doing something wrong.

Yet, they've all been exposed (or soon will be), and will have to suffer the consequences.

I can hardly wait! Schadefreude strikes again!

I'm sorry you believed the internet was an anonymous place-- it never was, it was just an illusion. Yet another benefit of the hack, now maybe people will wake the f**k up and realize nothing on the internet is truly private. Now add in that the majority of a person's financial information, health information, etc, is stored in databases that are accessible online and potentially ripe targets for hacking-- if that scares you, well, welcome to the modern world because that's been the case for literally a decade. You can complain about hacking all you want, but it's unavoidable, if there's a database with information in it there's going to be a hacker trying to gain access. You want a practical solution then argue for companies to shift your personal data to an internal network, not a public cesspool like the internet.

Hackers say that about any information they obtain when they hack. It's not the hack that's the problem. It's these people not being honest in their communication with others. I don't blame the hack itself for anything but the hack. If you go into a marriage with this belief you can trust your partner and they breach that trust, it's their fault. It's not the hackers'. They have broken their relationship because they violated their partner's trust in them and now the partner feels they can no longer believe them. I believe they have a right to know what is going on and base their decisions on that. Sad a hack has to occur just for them to find out. It should actually be their partner who tells them.

All these people cheating actually hurt the institute of marriage more than any same sex couple ever could. This is the real damage. This is why so many people roll their eyes when they hear or see that word. It's because it's such a load of malarky. What people will put each other through just because they are married. It's absolutely insane! Why do they act like this? Is this what they saw growing up? Makes me value my childhood more because I did not see it and I don't see it as normal in any way. I find it distasteful and a bit warped.

I am a bit old fashioned, I think if people are going to go through the trouble of being married, it should be to someone they have a fondness or love for and are willing to go through the good and bad times. In other words, if one of them doesn't want to have sex for some reason, the other one, if they really love their partner, would be understanding, not just run to a site like Ashley Madison to find other unhappily married people to hook up with and share stories of self pity and self loathing instead of working on their marriages.

Nothing on the internet is private. I can't believe people are dumb enough to use their professional .gov and .mil emails on sites like this, it hasn't seemed to click in people's heads that social media is one huge honeypot of information which is a commodity in of its self that governments, corporations, and all sorts of hackers and anarchists will fight for. Don't ever have an assumption of privacy no matter how trustworthy you think that website is, the largest most successful ones are the worst offenders of collecting our data. If your data is worthy something then it will be exposed.

I work in IT and have understanding of the security issues..

The problem is these people could not be anonymous entirely becuase they intend to hook up with people, and they would need some idea about them to do this safely and so does the site. So there has to be personal information.

Web security is not just about hacking, social engineering an old fashioned intelligence are popular vectors.

Just because the internet may not be private doesn't change the crime. If you steal data out to filing cabinet it is the not that different than if you steal it off the net (servers are connected to the net but are still private property). the law is the same. Yes they may be computer misuse laws too, but the data protection law is the same.

Whether you can be private on the net, so long as the information was not shared publicly by them or the service the information is private between the two parties and data protection laws apply. Where this is more an ambiguous situation, you can't make that argument.

If I find a vulnerability in a site, whether it involved financial transactions or not, I always give the the site first recourse to put it right. If they don't I might go public, however I don't want to put at risk their customers to make a point becuase I'm not a dick.

They was a vulnerability on Ebay some years ago, It enabled a hacker divert transactions from listings and a whole host of other things. I pointed it out to them, it took them couple of years years to fix.

I stand with the victims.

Just be clear you mean the legal victims, as in those whose data was shared?

No, the real victims; those who were cheated on.

Can you make assumptions about these people? Among the people who were revealed were homosexuals from Arab states, now at risk at being put to death.

Sure these are not faultless people. However they haven't committed a crime for the most part.

I'm a strong believer that justice should be blind and unemotional.

People have a right to privacy.

Whilst cheating is morally wrong, that still doesn't take away from that right above.

That's my take.

Privacy is a right, not a privilege.

Just as gun ownership is a right, once you start abusing that right, it can (and likely will) be taken away from you.

Islam is evil.

Two wrongs don't make are right. You are applying emotional justice to those whose data is stolen becuase of your perception and judgment of their private life.