'progressive' left terminology intentionally inflammatory?
It's like they're trying to use terms that are as inflammatory and ambiguous as possible.
'Rape culture' is somehow an applicable term for a country in which rape is a criminal offence. If they want to discuss the issue of rape, by all means go for it, but why refer to it as a culture as if people in droves are discussing rape like it's a positive thing?
'Toxic masculinity' is meant to be the 'toxic' aspects of masculinity? I'm sure they'd jump on anyone who tried to coin the term 'toxic femininity' to describe the female equivalent and yell 'misogynist'.
'Gender pay gap' as of they're talking about the differences in wages between men and women doing the same work. It's pretty well-established that it's mostly an earnings gap.
Are these people terming these things the way they are to be inflammatory in an attempt to get discussions started about these things or what? Why are their terms so ridiculous?
I have the same problem with the "rape culture". Rape is not only a criminal offence but also rapists are condemned by other men, they get hell in prisons form their fellow inmates. Am I living in a totally different culture than the articles I read come from?
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All groups use intentionally inflammatory rhetoric. It's a well-established tactic for winning people over, although of course can backfire.
People condemn rape in the abstract, but often justify it in certain circumstances, and there are many components of our society which make it easier to get away with rape. A large percentage of people think that women deserve some blame if they get raped while wearing revealing clothing, for example.
Yes, there are toxic elements to masculinity, that's plain for us all to see and I don't see why people get upset at the suggestion. If you successfully pin down toxic elements to femininity, and condemn them as strongly as you condemn toxic masculinity, then I'm sure feminists would support that - they tend to be pretty big critics of all gender roles, after all.
I'm not seeing what's more inflammatory about "pay gap" than "earnings gap"? On the face of it, those seem to mean the same thing. I think you're talking about technical distinctions rather than emotional ones - people use "wages" and "earnings" interchangeably in casual conversation and aren't going to get more riled up by one than the other. It would be better if you said that figures around 21% or whatever are unduly inflammatory when the true gap is more like 8%. Even then, I think the extra unpaid work that women do, and the underpayment of jobs coded as "female", means that discussion of the higher number shouldn't immediately be dismissed. We value men's work more than women's work, and while that's sometimes rational, it isn't always.
People condemn rape in the abstract, but often justify it in certain circumstances, and there are many components of our society which make it easier to get away with rape. A large percentage of people think that women deserve some blame if they get raped while wearing revealing clothing, for example.
I agree that wearing revealing clothing doesn't allocate any blame to victims and to be honest I don't think I even know anyone who'd think that, though I'm sure they'd exist.
Yeah, it is more of a technical distinction like you said.
Unpaid work as in housework? In a situation where the man works and the woman assumes a housewife role, I think the only real fair way to go about it is to say that the woman is entitled to some of the money the man makes for the work she does around the house. Nobody else has any incentive to pay a woman for doing work around the house except the other person/people who live there.
As for jobs coded "female", I'm assuming you're referring to nursing and things like that. They're lower-paying jobs because they're generally less lucrative for employers, not because women have a tendency to choose them. We value certain careers over other careers, regardless of who is in them.
I would be interested to hear it in more detail.
The feminists I personally know would probably not support the idea of toxic feminity but I can try to bring the topic up some day with them to check out who's right.
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People condemn rape in the abstract, but often justify it in certain circumstances, and there are many components of our society which make it easier to get away with rape. A large percentage of people think that women deserve some blame if they get raped while wearing revealing clothing, for example.
Yes, there are toxic elements to masculinity, that's plain for us all to see and I don't see why people get upset at the suggestion. If you successfully pin down toxic elements to femininity, and condemn them as strongly as you condemn toxic masculinity, then I'm sure feminists would support that - they tend to be pretty big critics of all gender roles, after all.
I'm not seeing what's more inflammatory about "pay gap" than "earnings gap"? On the face of it, those seem to mean the same thing. I think you're talking about technical distinctions rather than emotional ones - people use "wages" and "earnings" interchangeably in casual conversation and aren't going to get more riled up by one than the other. It would be better if you said that figures around 21% or whatever are unduly inflammatory when the true gap is more like 8%. Even then, I think the extra unpaid work that women do, and the underpayment of jobs coded as "female", means that discussion of the higher number shouldn't immediately be dismissed. We value men's work more than women's work, and while that's sometimes rational, it isn't always.
Most women who actually are raped have it happen to them for factors beyond their control. And it has nothing to do with dress style. The women and girls who are most likely to be raped are the disabled (frighteningly enough) and women of shorter stature. Both are very easy for predators to over power and prison interviews with rapists have said time and time again that they look for an easy opportunity rather than a woman who can fight back.
I don't believe there is any "condition" where rape is acceptable.
It is always a serious felony, with a 25-year max prison sentence (in NY State)--no matter if the woman was dressed "provocatively" or not. Or if she followed the guy into a hotel room, and she didn't consent to the sexual contact.
Nothing cited in the original post comes close, in offensiveness, to terms like "cuck", "liberal", "snowflake", or "FemiNazi".
Which, of course, is obvious - and was obvious before the post was created. Dobry Dyen, Tovarischi. The only way to win this game is not to play it.
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I disagree. The implication that you or I are complicit in a culture that supports (condones even, according to some) rape is an affront to an entire society, not to mention reality. An individual troll calling you "cuck" or "snowflake" should be deemed far beneath your regard.
As for "FemiNazi", I find it to be an altogether apt description for many authoritarian feminists, albeit an overused one.

Should I submit an invoice whenever I change a nappy? Who might I address it to?
Which, of course, is obvious - and was obvious before the post was created. Dobry Dyen, Tovarischi. The only way to win this game is not to play it.

Want a troll? A troll would reply to this with "my bowel is inflammatory". But generally ideological language generally is "inflammatory".
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Of course, they do it. But it is far from a progressive left tactic. "Cuck", "socialist", "feminazi" are some the right uses.
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Those are insults and not comparable to what the op is talking about.
Something comparable would be the right saying gays will lead to dissolving of marriages. Or the whole welfare people are thieves.
Murders, cucks, nazis, baby killers, etc are comparable insults he left uses to the ones the right uses. Also the left also uses snowflakes. Snowflake just seems to be something older people on both sides use to describe younger people who aren’t as tough as they think they were.
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