GnosticBishop wrote:
The Musings Of The Lost wrote:
Like some people seem to seek out religious people just to tell them they are wrong, they are idiots etc.
On the flipside there are some religious people who do the same to those of other religions or no religion at all.
I do think these people are just a loud, annoying minority in both sides.
Why do you think they do this? I see no purpose in it. Why can't people just be decent to each other, in your opinion?
If the religious were more peaceful and moral, no one would bother them.
Truth is that the religious have cause the worst evil that this world has seen, and the religious continue to harm gays and women thanks to their immoral homophobic and misogynous ways.
If you are a Christian, or Muslim, why did you complain against people above who push their views verbally, as compared to your religious ancestors who used the sword instead of decent arguments?
Are the religious not the worst offenders of the offence you purport goes to the other side?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoxPapPxXkRegards
DL
First off, I didn't mention anything about me being religious. And I said that religious people also forcefully push beleifs. I just see this happen more with atheists (personal experience, nothing more.)
Second, i assume you are referring to the crusades by 'religious ancestors who used the sword instead of decent arguments'. The crusades have a very complex background behind them. In the context of the first crusade, Turkish Muslim troops invaded Byzantine lands. The general of the Byzantines, Alexius Comnendus, took control of the empire and requested help from Europe. The pope, who had been in the process of trying to better relations with the byzantines quickly accepted, to achieve better relations with the Byzantines and drive out the Muslims, who were refusing to allow Christian pilgrims into Jerusalem.
All in all, I would see the first crusade is pretty well justified. There was a splinter group of crusaders, however, who left before the main group and committed unnecessary slaughter throughout small towns (Jewish in particular). At some of the seiges throughout the crusade, after victory the soldiers, who had lost friends in the fighting took it out on disarmed enemies and helpless civilians, but this was not the direct action of the leaders (with exceptions).
I was not referring to the crusades.
I was referring to the many Inquisitions with Christians killing other Christians on minor points of ideology.
I was speaking to how Christianity, which now advocates for freedom of thought and religion, while ignoring that they themselves murdered many to deny them their religious rights.
07 Dec 2017, 5:15 am
