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Yop. Its was horrbile. Instead of going to work, I was free to go to a place I had choosen to go, because of it teaching me the stuff, that I was interested in. Sorry, but studying is not hard, studying is a gift. Instead of doing stupid loan work, you are allowed to learn something that you are interested in. Thats as if a Star Wars fan goes to a Star Wars con, while you try to explain us, that we should be lucky to go working. People dont go studying instead of studying, because they are forced to do so. People go working instead of studying, because of being forced to do so. After engineer degree in environmental development I would have like to specialise and do a master degree about technical ground development, because of it being of interest of me, but I simply needed to earn money. And sure, you always have some subjects you are not interested into, just as I had energy calculation of facilities, most boring subject ever, because of it being totally stupid and nothing more then learning tons of formulas from memory. But in the end instead of working a stupid job, I spent much of my time learning about subjects I was interested in.

If someone decides to study law, when he dont want to study law, he hardly can blame others for his own stupid desicion.

My experience has been that low prestige jobs pay less and work you harder. In my 20s I had many low prestige jobs and worked twice as hard being blue collar as opposed to now, white collar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnmhBul6svk

And what do you have a degree in? If a low status work gave me as much money as engineering did, I'd quit school at 16 and get a job that only required me to meet up an hour after the place opened and hang outside the entrance and smoke cigarettes. Studying is a crushing weight on your shoulders for years, ruling your life and costing you money while lazier people can have a low stress workday and still have 16 hours of spare time everyday. The tax money from hard working people pays for flatscreens, BMWs and fashionable clothes to lazier people who don't deserve them.



They do so to get more money in the future. Operating forklifts is way easier than learning about algorithms or the more complex fields of circuits... and being a substitute kindergarten teacher (I've worked as both) is way more fun than reading math.



They're either too lazy or do not have what it takes; neither should be rewarded. Walk into a storeroom or into the coffee room of the mall guards. You'll see how low their morale is, and how they really enjoy stalling time to avoid working.



I couldn't care less about either chemistry or circuits. I still need both subjects to get a degree. If the socialists had their way (And being lazy would pay of), I'd much rather drop out at 16 and just have the workplace as a place to hang out from 9 to 5.



Not sure where you're going with this. If someone works his ass of and studies for ten hours a day (including weekends), while someone else earns money, has an easy job and spends his spare time on partying and having fun, the former shouldn't have to give his money to the latter.

"The tax money from hard working people pays for flatscreens, BMWs and fashionable clothes to lazier people who don't deserve them."
Kurgan
Actually,the rich poor is an oxymoron.
Actually, our tax dollars were spent to bail out Wall Street and the banks.The money spent on welfare for the poor is miniscule compared to that spent on welfare for the rich.
Actually, I think you should read more and know who your real enemies are. They are not guys working 2 jobs too support a family. Your enemies are elites that want you uneducated.

But of course,it is easier to fight a homeless guy then a lazy Wall Street guy that has so much power that he can (and did) destroy our economy.

If someone who makes 100,000 dollars a year spends a higher percentage of his salary on taxes than someone who makes 25,000 dollars (which is the case in both the US and the EU/EEA), then the former pays for the laziness of the latter. Imaginge you worked hard on school and got an A; the lazy guy who does nothing but drink in his spare time and sees school as just a place to be for 8 hours got an E. A socialist would say that the both of your should get a C because of this.

Most homeless people have nobody but themselves to blame.

I have no idea what low status jobs you worked at. All I know is that you were very very lucky! When I worked 2 jobs to go to university,if I goofed off even for only a moment, I would have been fired. I also had to make impossible quotas or be fired. I think my experience was typical.

Well OK. You are from Norway. The USA is totaly different. At least I imagine so. I have never been to Norway. All I know is that your extreme right wing is our extreme left wing. We (usa) are so extreme in our right wing policies that every other country is Socialist compared to us.

Do you have a better suggestion instead of this system? How can the governments raise enough money to cover their costs?

Actually, as a % I pay more taxes then the mega rich.
That is the origan of the Buffet rule, a mega billionare should pay at least the same % as his secretary.

Noway is a run-of-the-mill EU/EEA country. The market laws here are governed by the EU, and various other laws were enacted during a more right-wing government. On the other hard, if you're hired via an employment agency, there are no laws against discrimination or unfair layoffs, like there are in the US, nor are there any laws against unfair competition. There are plenty of left-wingers here (who thankfully have no authority) who wants hard-working people to have less and lazy people to have more.

Either clean up the mess in the economy or increase the taxes on the easier and lower-paying jobs if the person is older than a certain age. As long as a person has access to food, water and a place to sleep for the night, owning a lot of luxuries (TV sets, computers etc) is not a right. Singapore (which is far, far more capitalist than the US) has low taxes for everyone, with one of the best healthcare and educational systems in the world.

Clean up the mess that has been caused by the capitalist system, and according to you on this thread is just part of the process.
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Tax people more as they get older, and is this still a democratic system or a dictatorship?
The conservatives in this country made a right royal f**k up of the economy and got voted back in by making a tax cut just before the election. I don't think going the opposite way will win a re-election.

Where have I seen this kind of life for the comrades before....................yes, you guessed it.........COMMUNISM.

The capitalist system worked just fine during Clinton. Hong Kong, Singapore, Chile, Switzerland and even Canada are all more capitalistic than the US. You can't blame the capitalist system for an economic recession that was caused by human errors in politics (most notably by the congress, but also by Bush's administration) and a decreasing sale in American cars. If capitalism in the long run didn't work, the US wouldn't have the 3. highest HDI in the world, while the USSR became a gigantic failure.



Is it democratic to tax someone who spent his youth going to a university more than someone who spent it by partying?



The majority of the Americans got the government they deserved. If you must know, then the democrats Cash for Clunkers was just as big of a f*ck up as the tax cut.



What Karl Marx (and Papa Smurf) told you, was "from each according to ability to each according to needs". Preventing people from obtaining food is the same as killing them. Allowing hard working people to buy better cars and better computers if it means that lazier people will have to settle for Pintos, then it's simply nothing more than justice.

So you are saying that the do nothing yuppies (wall street) that destroyed the world's economy somehow deserve the wealth they stole?