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30 Nov 2010, 1:08 pm

"We have evolved to the point where we can put aside our emotions and look at this logically."

If only I could have that optimism!

Circumspice!



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30 Nov 2010, 1:52 pm

You don't see it as a choice? I'm not saying it is easy, but it's possible.



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30 Nov 2010, 2:08 pm

Philologos wrote:
Global warming denial


That's just what the left wants people to believe that it is a deadly sin. Fact is there is good reason to not believe in global warming due to climategate.

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Christian Fundamentalism


I don't recall any Christians sending children into crowded marketplaces and then blowing said child up via a remote detonator. I honestly, think this is more of an excuse to attack Christians in general by new age atheists and the left.

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Hate Talk


Depends what country you are in, and people are in general getting fed up with speech being labeled 'hate speech.' The label has been overused and abused.

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For the definitions that apply THIS WEEK, ask Big Brother.


I could care less what 'Big Brother' thinks, I'm actually glad a Republican majority is in the House of Representatives so there is at least some sanity in government. Fact is some of these have become political weapons used by Democrats against the general public, and the public is fed up.



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30 Nov 2010, 3:35 pm

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People have a spiritual aspect to them. It is inherent in every culture and has been throughout history. This will probably never go away. So, how do you manage a whole population without steering their religious beliefs? It is as basic as our sex drives and will to live. Even if people are atheists, that is an ideology. Agnostics will often philosophize about spirituality even more so than the religious or atheists. This is a human phenomenon that can't be dismissed or ignored.

Why is it important to have people think the same way? Why can't we live together and know that so and so is Luciferean or that others are Christians? We have evolved to the point where we can put aside our emotions and look at this logically.


Exactly, ecerybody should be free to have thier own beliefs and interpretations, be free to share them as we all belive we are right and want to help our fellow man, "see the light".
The danger is when one group forces itself on another, or does things that effect the lives of others through wars or financial control for instance.

This one world religion will force itself on all those who would rather they continue in thier own religion.



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30 Nov 2010, 9:55 pm

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Dont worry about it Banned Magnus, it actually re-inforces my belief system when the Synagogue of Satan, as on any forum Ive ever been on, are allways the first to defend possible evil machinations by both insults and crying "conspiracy theory"!, makes you wonder whos behind the ills of the world doesnt it.


What!! !! I'm a member of the NWO, illumanti, or whatever your fill-in for the Elders of Zion is??! !! WHERE THE HELL IS MY PAYCHEQUE??! !

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And I didnt even make any mention of Judaism as far as I can see in my post, yet it raised the emotional blackmail call of anti-semitism, which once again points a finger in a certain direction.


That really doesn't matter, as its well known that various Reptillian/Illumanti/NWO organizations talked of by various conspiracy theorists are actually just memetic descedants of the "Elders of Zion" myth.

You really are displaying, though, my point when it comes to Christians needing persecution because of their totalistic, us versus them, worldview. Early last century it was "The Elders of Zion", now it's the "Global Elitists" or "Reptillians" or "Satanists" (the myths of Satanic Ritual Abuse bare a disgusting similarity to Blood libel - showing that the structures of antisemitic conspiracy myths remain long after most of the antisemetic content has been whitewashed.


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30 Nov 2010, 9:56 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Philologos wrote:
For the definitions that apply THIS WEEK, ask Big Brother.


I could care less what 'Big Brother' thinks, I'm actually glad a Republican majority is in the House of Representatives so there is at least some sanity in government. Fact is some of these have become political weapons used by Democrats against the general public, and the public is fed up.


Much of "the general public" didn't vote.


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30 Nov 2010, 10:01 pm

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I'm actually glad a Republican majority is in the House of Representatives so there is at least some sanity in government.

:lol: :lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol:

Come on folks. That is pure comedy gold right there. If you were waiting for conclusive proof that Inu is just yanking our chains, here it is.


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30 Nov 2010, 10:08 pm

Since Serge Monast (the Quebecois pseudo-journalist who made up the Project Blue Beam myth) focuses on developing elaborate myths about the Free Masons, I thought it'd be a good time to relay my experience walking into a Masonic temple.

I walked into one Masonic temple as it was where a local Toastmasters met and I wanted to see if the group was in session. I bumped into two very old people, who told me that the Masons were a society, that they elect a President and a vice-president, and do charitable stuff.

The toastmasters group wasn't in session, but I thought of joining the group for about thirty seconds (that was the time it took me to read the "MASONS don't discriminate on the basis of religion, but do require a belief in God" section. After that moment I realized it was a disgustingly theistic organization!

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Inuyasha wrote:
I'm actually glad a Republican majority is in the House of Representatives so there is at least some sanity in government.

:lol: :lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol: :lmao: :lol:

Come on folks. That is pure comedy gold right there. If you were waiting for conclusive proof that Inu is just yanking our chains, here it is.


It's such black comedy now that the children are running the House. I wonder how long it'll take for them to destroy their political capital doing something stupid (like investigating Obama's personal life to the extent they did Slick Willie's).


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30 Nov 2010, 10:15 pm

Obama has a personal life? Frankly, I never thought Non-DeWitt's life needed investigation beyond one glance at his face.



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30 Nov 2010, 10:23 pm

Quite frankly, as a Canadian I am ashamed that two of the "intellectual" contributors to the paranoid end-timer Christians here are fellow Canucks: Ontario's William Guy Carr ("Synagogue of Satan") and Quebec's Serge Monast ("Project Blue Beam"). Thank goodness neither of them come from my province.

And since the Christian end-timers seem to know so much about the NWO/Illumanti/Reptillians/Global Elitists/Elders of Zion, can you direct me to where all the backpay for my work is? It'd really help.


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30 Nov 2010, 10:35 pm

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[People have a spiritual aspect to them. It is inherent in every culture and has been throughout history. This will probably never go away.


"Spirituality" or various "spiritual urges" are more likely a combination of various psychological factors that religions feed as a supernormal stimulus. I bet that the "spiritual need" will be broken down into interpersonal needs, the euphoria optimism (which includes positive illusions) produces, and the satisfaction gained from a lasting legacy. I'd even predict that in the early days, some of the more close-nit communist societies provided something analogus to this to people.

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So, how do you manage a whole population without steering their religious beliefs? It is as basic as our sex drives and will to live. Even if people are atheists, that is an ideology.


Atheism is not an ideology, it is the lack of theistic beliefs. Atheists often have an accompanying positive ideology (one of the most common being anti-theism), but that doesn't mean that atheism itself is an ideology.

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Agnostics will often philosophize about spirituality even more so than the religious or atheists.


I don't know where that observation came from, nor do I see any reason to believe it.

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This is a human phenomenon that can't be dismissed or ignored.


It is a supernormal stimulus and it can be attacked as such.

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Why is it important to have people think the same way? Why can't we live together and know that so and so is Luciferean or that others are Christians?


Because, as a sort of definining doctrine of their religion, Christians would regard "Lucifereans" as subhuman and depraved, not that more than a handful really exist.

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We have evolved to the point where we can put aside our emotions and look at this logically.


As has been done sufficinctly above.


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01 Dec 2010, 12:45 am

I wonder what this "spirituality" may be. Is it mere congenial interpersonal behavior or must one believe in spooks, ultimate justice or flying saucers? I admit severe lacks in those latter qualities and therefore, as I have long suspected, do not belong to humanity. I am beginning to wonder where and how I was assembled.



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01 Dec 2010, 1:36 am

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Quite frankly, as a Canadian I am ashamed ....


Ah. NDP, by any chance?



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01 Dec 2010, 1:41 am

Philologos wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
Quite frankly, as a Canadian I am ashamed ....


Ah. NDP, by any chance?


YOU BETTCHA!!

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt144699.html


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01 Dec 2010, 1:42 am

"but that doesn't mean that atheism itself is an ideology."

Likely - would you not need an idea first?



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01 Dec 2010, 1:42 am

Philologos wrote:
"but that doesn't mean that atheism itself is an ideology."

Likely - would you not need an idea first?


Oh, you sly prof, you!


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