Asperger's and Fundamentalism Related?

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I believe in blind faith, i just take it for what it is, i dont question God or the Church, Que Sera Sera, Whatever will be will be, the future's not ours to see

Once again, I stand in awed amazement at your incredible taste and good judgement.

Fundie? I like that one! Just think of the marketing potential:

"Want to visit exciting foreign countries, sample strange new cultures, witness fabulous sights and meet interesting new people? ....and then blow the crap out of them for disagreeing with your narrow, petty little belief systems? Then have Fun! Make people Die! Join the FunDies today!"

I'll have a word with Osama right away - there might be a few bob in this one for me......

This isn't a personal attack, honestly....... no, really it isn't..... Its just that its that kind of attitude that generally results in some people wanting to fly 'planes into large solid objects at considerable velocity...... It is absolutely fundamental to me that everything should be challenged and questioned, especially something like religion where there are a million different opinions, each claiming to be the only "correct" and "valid" one..... Everybody can't be right, and its a thousand to one chance surely that the one particular religion anyone subscribes to can indeed be the "correct" one....... Anyway, I respect your viewpoint if that is indeed the way you feel.

By the way, Osama's giving me some positive vibes on my marketing strategy. He also absolutely loves the new slogan I've come up with for his new chain of Cash 'n' Carries as well: You haven't "been ladened" until you've "Bin Laden"ed.

*knock at the door* On cripes, its those pesky taste police again.....

you are implying that i am a terrorist, the hijackers had strong faith that was not blind faith, they qustioned their religious motives all the time, what kind of religion endorses murder?

P.S. I believe what the Vatican tells me to believe and i do not question it

Saddam Hussein.. they should call him so-damn insane!

God, no.... not at all...... I'm simply stating that blind faith in the words of one's religious "superiors" can and does lead to such instances......

Of course, no kind of worthwhile religion can condone murder, but there are sadly plenty that do....... and I'll think you'll find that the 9/11 lot never questioned a religious motive in their entire miserable existences, actually......

I get sooo tired of all the suggestions that thinking for oneself and believing in God are mutually exclusive... these seem to come from believers and unbelievers both, so that's one thing at least that they share.

C. S. Lewis... G. K. Chesterton... Dorothy Sayers... Madeleine L'Engle... talk about smart, independently thinking folks who believe in God. Anybody listen? No...

*sigh*

Since when have I ever said people having half a brain and belief in God are mutually exclusive? Never, that's when. Who knows whether or not God exists - I certainly don't (although I strongly doubt the fact personally, but anyhoo...). The consideration, debate and contemplation of the fact (or otherwise) are to be encouraged. There's nothing wrong or intellectually diminishing with believing in God whatsoever - anyone who says otherwise is clearly a fool.

It is Organised Religion that is the problem...... The enforced imposition of ludicrous man-made dogma and doctrine on poor unsuspecting innocents by evil, powerful self-interest groups that has caused and continues to cause so many of the problems we as a species have endured through history. This is what must be questioned and fought against..... Unthinking acceptance of self-interest induced deliberate mistranslations of self-interest induced deliberate mistranslations of garbled nonsense spouted by some nut job or other 1000s of years ago......

Not sure which "nut" you mean.

Aye - in an AS-related mailing list I'm on someone just touched the subject of atheism. Is it any coincidence a good number of members of that list (and some AS suspects I know too) declare themselves atheists? I think not. Perhaps it is our tendency to extensive research, to find a reason for everything, that in turn makes it hard for us to believe in anything "just because".

Just to make it clear - for me, God exists - in the form of the vast order and dimensions of the Universe which extends beyond our wildest imaginations, in Nature as a whole, where nothing exists without a purpose, and in the mere fact that all of this just couldn't have made itself in a single boom without a major coordination force behind the scenes. That's where I see God - not in organized religion. The only thing religions have done, IMHO, is to misuse grossly the concept of God, twisting and turning it according to the conveniences of a given group and their less-than-holy interests. History abounds in examples...

My feeling about God is similar to what you described, Ebi.

The now unknown and lost in time miscellaneous "nut"s who decided millenia ago that, for whatever reason, they were going to be instruments of God and start spouting invented creation myths and dogma - myth and dogma that our society is still mired with even now. To me, that qualifies someone as a "nut".

OK, that's fair enough - but what if the Vatican changes what it believes in (as it has done many times historically, and seldom for spiritual or religious reasons) and starts to tell you to do things that are unspeakable or unethical (as it has also done many times historically - The Inquisition, the destruction of the new world and its peoples, and the tacit acceptance of Nazism being just 3 readily available to mind examples) - would you still accept what it tells you unthinkingly? If not in those cases, then why do you not question it now as well? Why should what catholicism dictates now be any more valid than what it did then? If the Pope's words and dictates are the words and dictates of God now, then why weren't they then?

Sorry to have a go - this really isn't a personal attack - it just alarms me to see an obviously intelligent person just blindly accepting (in some cases) questionable dogma just because some out of touch old duffer says that you'll burn in hell or whatever for not doing so.....

When the Pope speaks ex cathedra he is infallible, and yes i would follw the Vatican to ANY extent!
I dont see anything in the CHurch as "Questionable Dogma" everything happens for a reason. THis reminds me of a song in church that goes:

We Walk by Faith and Not By Sight
No Gracious Words We Hear
Of Him Who Spoke
As None Ever Spoke
But We Believe Him Near

This kind of attitude just absolutely sends chills down my spine I'm afraid...... There's a reason 'they' want you to just shut up and do as you're told you I'm afraid, and its got nothing to do with God or religion...... God gave you a mind and a free will for a reason - to just blissfully toss both out of the window because some git in a pointy hat says so is just terrifying..... I'm sorry mate, but this is the kind of attitude that allows nut jobs to persuade other people to fly planes into things.....

Lately I've been researching Deism. I really like it. Deists believe in a higher power, but don't believe in the Bible or other religious texts. It honours intelligence and thinking for yourself. A lot of philosophers were Deists. Actually, Deism is a lot like what duncvis and Ebi were talking about.

If you want more information about it here is a good site: http://www.deism.org/