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23 Jun 2025, 7:08 pm

Although many say that there's no difference between Asperger's and autism, I think there is quite clearly a difference.

In this video is a clip about a special school for autistic adolescents, but this clip is focused on a 12-year-old boy diagnosed with Asperger's. You can sort of see that he has Asperger's (compared to his autistic peers I mean) by his ways, his body language, his likeness to a typical 12-year-old boy, and his voice tone, facial expressions and articulate speech. He seems very ADHD as well but this documentary is quite old now, when ADHD still wasn't always diagnosed along with Asperger's. Speaking of the documentary being quite old, they rabbit on about lack of empathy and all that s**t but I don't think his empathy is any different to any other boy of 12 here.
I've seen the whole documentary and the other children there seem much more pronounced with their autism than this kid. And it doesn't look like he's masking either. If I masked less when I was his age I probably would have behaved the same way at school, otherwise my speech, body language and other mannerisms were very much like his.


Oh, and I can relate to what he says at the very end of this video (at 7:16). It's heartbreaking.


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23 Jun 2025, 7:32 pm

Mainly Aspergers is considered autism due to same core traits, just at a lesser severity and because HFA (high functioning autism) was only differentiated from Aspergers by whether a speech delay was present or not.
It's differentiated by "levels" these days. ASD level 1 will indeed have a very different life experience than ASD level 3.

That's my understanding, anyway. I personally don't care if someone prefers the term Aspergers.


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23 Jun 2025, 7:44 pm

I've heard about people referring to themselves as "aspies" basically seeing themselves as superior to everyone else, including other autistic people. They're no better than white supremacists.

I may have referred to myself as "aspie" and snarked about NTs, but the last thing I want to be seen as is a supremacist even though I was born with white skin so it's virtually unavoidable. White people are evil and we are to blame for everything wrong with the world, think I'm happy about that?

But I digress. I'm too "normal" to be ND, too ND to be "normal". I was able to read at an early age but couldn't tie my shoes until I was 9.

When I was almost in my teens I'd get in trouble a lot for daydreaming at school and I'd be walking to school and become mesmerized by things like clouds or a bird singing in a tree and end up being late. I had a "conversation" with a robin one time. Asperger's, autism, ADHD, or "normal"?

Maybe if I had asked the robin where Batman was? I didn't.



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23 Jun 2025, 8:20 pm

I don't feel supreme to anyone. But it just is what it is. I also sit on the "too autistic to be NT, too NT to be autistic" line. I don't always know who I am at times. Identity issues maybe.


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Yesterday, 12:57 am

The differences is very clear to me, too.
I'm only an autistic without ADHD, who, well, I can pass for an aspie.

It's this... Executive Dysfunction overlaps and common reactive circumstances because of that had made two labels seemingly relatable. :?


As for Asperger's...
The only reason why I'm not labelled with autism at first all because of the lack history of speech delay.


I am utterly certain that I'm never NT. I have zero doubts that I'm not allistic in any way.

I just don't tie "dysfunctional" or "not passing" with being "more neurodivergent".


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Yesterday, 7:07 am

Tamaya wrote:
I don't feel supreme to anyone. But it just is what it is. I also sit on the "too autistic to be NT, too NT to be autistic" line. I don't always know who I am at times. Identity issues maybe.


Maestra Tamaya,

First of sorry to hear about a very recognizable struggle, you are facing head on currently: identity.
This lies at the core of our(autism) common issues; differentiating ourselves and finding a place in society or even just in our own minds.

----warning all text from this point reflects my personal opinions ;)----
I personally have been called almost everything from NT, to ND, to freak and back. And have never really valued external input on my identity aside from my close friends and relatives.

->Is it 'useful' to get a "label": yes and no :)
We all need to have some idea of the edges of the shape we are coloring, but do not let your shape's "standards/defaults" define the colors you use. :)
I know it's a simplistic analogy, but what I mean by the later part is: do not become the diagnosis. An all too common trope, but it's true: Be the best version of you you can be, untethered by expectations or labels, you will thank yourself later. :)
Know where you are: yes. But try and avoid the pitfall of 'living up to expectations'.
The voyage of self-discovery and becoming, (putting a little Buddhist philosophy in WP :)) is the greatest, most worthwhile adventure/goal you can pursue in your life.

I understand fully what it is to be lost and have a need for guard rails telling you what and how.
But having been fully identified with something I thought I was, for me, felt restrictive to the point of suffocation. I will always prefer the unknown versus that.
Again, this is my personal choice/opinion feeling.
I have seen peers who roll up in their ASD / ADHD/ Aspie - identities like a warm blanket, and understand them as well. But time does not stop, the definitions change, the science advances, cultural and societal factors pull and push on value and content of 'known' labels, to the point that it no longer covers the content we were rolled up into before...
So what if you have more in common with NT peers than most ND peer and visa versa, you are you.
I have learned to ask a person their 'labels' when I meet them, because it is seen as a social "must do" but do not that influence the person they are to me in my mind, through my lived experience with them.

What I read from and about you in this forum is unique and amazing the way you are able to express your doubts and fears, the turmoil you lived through and with along with the scars you bear from them show that you were stronger than them.
If I am permitted one advice to you milady (said a stranger on an autistic forum :) ), research to the maximum, learn and develop your understanding to the best of your abilities. But try and get beyond the restrictions of labels.
In the end don't we all want to be treated as individuals... ;)

Kind regards,
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Yesterday, 7:24 am

Tamaya wrote:
Oh, and I can relate to what he says at the very end of this video (at 7:16). It's heartbreaking.


Yeah, this part was very sad. :(



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Yesterday, 1:39 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
Tamaya wrote:
Oh, and I can relate to what he says at the very end of this video (at 7:16). It's heartbreaking.


Yeah, this part was very sad. :(


Yeah, my heart goes out to him. Makes me wish I could adopt him and love him like my own son. I know he's probably like 30 now lol.


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Yesterday, 1:43 pm

Tamaya wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
Tamaya wrote:
Oh, and I can relate to what he says at the very end of this video (at 7:16). It's heartbreaking.


Yeah, this part was very sad. :(


Yeah, my heart goes out to him. Makes me wish I could adopt him and love him like my own son. I know he's probably like 30 now lol.


Yeah, lol.