UK global warming 'expert' tries to scare people again

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We get hot summers in Montreal so air con is actually very common. Electricity is also not a problem here (abundant hydro) so people buy and install the systems without too much guilt or second though

If they have air con in Scandinavia, it is for manly men who don't find the winter nearly cold enough

Our summers are crappy but I don't mind that. If I want unrelenting heat, I can go to the Med.

They can't provide enough power on their own. Also, the use of renewable energy will not be free of environmental impact either. Nuclear power is actually the best option but lot's of people don't want to accept nuclear power.

Worsening the air by polluting it with centuries old dust and mildew, increasing doctors income with increasing the amount of lung illnesses that are typical for winters during summer, forcing people to wear winter cloth in summer due to some idiots that think 20 degrees is the right temperature during July and August, and shops terrorizing you with that aircon s**t, leading for me to have circulation breakdowns three times caused by idiot shops forcing you to have crazy temperature differences when buying food in summer.

Increasing your energy costs?

Oh, and forcing me to search for the remote of my offices air condition once a year, when the maintenance guy comes to check it.

In Austria they are already so dumb. I mean this poor managers, forced to wear weather suitable cloths during summer. Not wearing their complete suits during summer, could cause their penisses to decrease.

I can't do without air conditioning, I just can't support the heat. Air conditioning during summer is not the heaviest burden for the electrical grid here though, it's the heating during winter. Of course, if everyone had air conditioning it could be another story. (And the heatwaves will only get more frequent with global warming.)

He isn't the one being idiotic there.

The 2003 heatwave killed around 35,000 people, mostly elderly people but also infants and those who were already sick as well as a few healthy adults. Those events could easily become more common and more severe if we don't try to prevent climate change.

Everyone just to move to a place with altitude 8000 feet above sea level (or more).. Problem solved!

ruveyn

Its not only about air conditioning. (Hate that stuff, completely useless s**t in offices.) So in Great Britain as an island, it might be no problem but in Europe insects are moving more and more. So in Germany (which is north of Austria) they now have in some areas, they never have been before (because it was too cold in earlier days), ticks that can bear an FSME or Borreliose infection within them. In Austria where we always had that ticks, we instead now get to know a sort of mosquitoes, that lived until now more south around italy and north africa, also being able to carry plagues with them, that we are not used to.

The problem is, people that are not used to them have no resistances against that infections. While these ticks always have been around my place, so everyone living near wilderness has a vaccination against FSME and knows to check himself for Borreliose when he gets bitten by a tick, and how to remove them correctly when they are in your flesh, and even then you only have a minor stitch. People who are unused to them dont have vaccination, dont know what the first symptoms of Borreliose look like, how to remove the tick properly, and even then the bits of them infect themselfs often, because they carry dirty matieral into your flesh while sucking on you. So when I went through the woods as childs, I easily had a dozend of them on me, so my body knows to fight that dirty maerials and the itches dont infect. But as these others now have problems with the ticks, we have to be afraid of these new mosquitoes, able to carry with them malaria, yellow fever and such stuff. If an older person gets infected with these, it is really dangerous because our bodies never get to use that kind of infections and we have no immune systems against them, so doctors can easily say, that it might be harder for us then for people, used to live in such areas, and their bodies already knowing these infections. So there is some hysteria too about some poisonous spiders from italy, that can be very painful, but painful is not deadly so I dont care for them. But still they are a sign, that something must be changing. I dont think these insects decided to come here because of our famous cultural events. ^^

Farmers have similar problems. The last year we had far more rain in spring as we are used to normally, while the summers were dry and hot of a kind that we wasnt used to. So in spring the crop, which we usually plant around our areas, got far more water then usually was fouling and in summer, the surviving rest dried. -.- So sure there are plants from others areas that are used to these kind of weather, but farmers must learn to handle these crops so they get the usual amount of food from it, they have expensive specialised machines for our usual crop that get useless now when changing to other sorts of crop, and have enormous costs for building up water supplies for their fields, which wasnt necessary until now.

All these also led to the higher prices on food, vegetables and fruit in europe, we had during the last years. Thats no cause for panicking or being afraid, but its something we must take care of with responsibility. Air condition wont help farmers or have an influence on ticks.

There have been people who have stretched the truth about climate change to try to get people's attention.

This guy isn't one of 'em.

When you guys start going though the droughts and heat waves we have to endure, we'll see what you're saying then, Tequila.

Climate change is about the renewal of the earths ecosystem to support humanities greater numbers.
There is more rainfall now and more arable land and this will continue.
After the current warming period, some climate scientists have predicted earth will enter a new mini ice age.

The planet has gone through several warm-cold cycles since the Cambrian Era.

The eco-phreaks take the position that any kind of climate change is bad. If we start to freeze our fannies off again they will blame the capitalists.

ruveyn

That's right! Why do us "eco-phreaks" get so worked up about climate change? It's happened before!

Oh, that's right! Because pretty much every major climate change since the Cambrian Era resulted in a mass extinction!

Every major climate change for the last 50,000 years has greatly reduced the population.

It was the Black Death that brought wages to Europe, with less people, they had to be paid.

Climate change is good, and public health bad, which any chart of population will show. With the weak and unlucky dying in childhood, many dying of old age at forty, the population still went up.

It was not bad till public health reduced deaths, then the population spiked.

Now we prolong life thirty years beyond the reasonable age of death, 55, which was why 65 was chosen for Social Security.

Good management still took wars, crusades, because people increase. Something has to be done.

More people, more land under the plow, more evaporation, more water vapor trapping heat, drought, and the price of food rises.

There are too many people and they live too long.

Do you really think this planet can support another doubling of population?

The Black Death came several decades into the Little Ice Age though the real disaster that marked the beginning of that was the Great Famine thirty years earlier.

In 705 the Black Sea and Nile froze. in 400 the Romans loved the wines of Scotland. By 1100 there was year round ice on the Scottish coast.

The Vikings came south in 900 because their grains would no longer ripen,

Mass migration, crop failure, mass slaughter, leading up to the Black Death. Also the Dancing Sickness, as people ate Rye that had grown Ergot in damp fields. Cold and wet. Not enough food, so Crusades, to capture warmer southern lands.

It is all Climate History. Since 1500, moderate regular weather, and a population boom that started the age of exploration to get rid of them. The last 500 years is the strangest in the record, Mild, Moderate, warming, ripened crops year after year.

It will get hot, then it will get cold, Most will die, just as they did in the last interglacial period, when sea level was seven meters higher, it was much warmer, and all of the large animals died.

Of the last 150,000 years, only 20,000 have been during three interglacials, and this the longest at 10,000 years.

Change is coming.

the climate of earth is self correcting because earth is in the "butter" zone.
i do not know how long the cycles are (i suspect 40,000 years from ice age to ice age with a warm age in between)

it is obvious that the world is warming up which is evidenced by our uncommonly cold summers lately. as the ice at the poles melts into our oceans, the oceans are initially colder at non polar lattidudes. it is like when ones ice clogged freezer breaks down, and you walk into your kitchen and it feels cold and you see very cold water on your floor. it will not be cold for long.


i think the self correcting mechanism acts in the following way.
as the world heats up, the evaporation of water from the oceans will create a cloud cover which will result in more of the earth being overcast. also, the liberation of carbon dioxide will be accelerated by the thawing and rotting of the tundra as well as the death and rotting of plankton in the seas.

the increase in carbon dioxide will fuel a flourishing vegetation that binds the carbon dioxide (that it needs) into massively increased vegetative biomass, and the increased oxygen output from that biomass as well as the consumption of carbon dioxide, coupled with the solar energy reflection because of white clouds that cloak the earth will result in an ice age.

it is a cycle that is natural, but humans think that nothing happens on earth that is not caused by them, and they feel like the masters of nature and they will impose penalties and restrictions under the misapprehension that their actions are the cause of greater natural cycles than they could possibly influence.