>3000 US prisoners serving life for non violent crimes

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Louisiana is kind of an icky state.. It's just weird and southern down there. Just venture into the Piggly Wiggly in Lafayette and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Weird. People look like they've been preyed upon by Voodoo practitioners.

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The U.S. is one of many nations and should not be held up to a higher standard than any other nation. Since the Declaration of Independence was signed in 1776 the U.S. has never lived up to the ideals of the Declaration. So why make a Big Deal now?

The U.S. has no more obligation to be perfect than any other nation on the globe.

It so happens that the U.S. has been better on the average than the savage nations of Africa and Asia and on top of that the U.S has saved the sorry asses of the Europeans twice in the twentieth century. We have fed the hungry (we have no obligation to do so), we have cured the sick of other lands (we have no obligation to do so). So just on the track record the U.S has surely earned a C+ not an F- as you imply.

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And some parts of the US are worse than others, Thomas. Louisiana and the south are not the best parts.
My mother's great grandmother ran up here from Louisiana with her kids and some man, disowning her entire family from somewhere in Louisiana back in the 1800's when my great-grandmother was just a child. Since everyone was forbidden to talk about our Louisiana family, we don't know much about them, just that I have relatives down there. Somewheres.

Similar? They're not on the same level of harshness, even if in both cases, there is harshness involved.

I agree with all that the current laws are stupid in a lot of aspects, but to compare the US to North Korea would be absurd, and more so just because you have an axe to grind with America.

Be more objective, thomas.

Blah, blah, blah, irrelevancies, blah blah blah.

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Because American is now the dominant superpower and couches its foreign meddling in moralistic terms?

To Thomas it looks like the crime does not fit the sentence and he does have a point. Someone rotting in jail over stealing a jacket is the type of behavior US criticizes other nations for and certain southern states can be problematic. The south has a history of problematic ethics. It's a known fact.

Tell you what, I'll be a US citizen living in the States and live a middle class leftist life constantly and vocally denouncing evil America.

He can be an average North Korean loudly denouncing the DPRK publicly.

Meet back in six months Thomas? I'll understand if you can't make it.

Such a shame, as there would have been a pint in it for you.

And I have said thst the US laws are bloody stupid and should be scrapped.

I wonder if OP will post articles from other areas.

I have stopped posting here now as I can't be bothered.

I would give the USA more respect if

a) They stopped criticising and sticking their nose in everybody elses business when its not asked for. No-one elected them 'global policeman'.

b) They were more honest about the state of their own justice and social inequality instead of posturing to the rest of the world about how much freer and better off they are. I live 4 economies below the USA but I would never want to live there. At least how bad things get, I know I will get to see a doctor or unemployment cash benefits rather than foodstamps. As much as some posters here may loathe them, and for all their faults, at least Iran, the DPRK etc while excessively nationalist and unduly patriotic, aren't presenting false auspices of being shangri-las of free speech, justice and social fairness.

Also here we don't have a judicial system that is skewed by racism to such a large extent or prisons run on a profit motive where private contractors are earning money for occupied cells and to hell with the human cost. There is a reason that the USA has the disproportionately highest incarcerated population.

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Weird and Southern? WTF.I used to shop in Pigs when I lived near one,I never saw any zombies in there.Im from the South,I get kind of tired of all this South bashing.
And Lafayette has a drive thru daquari store,nice.

Probably someone who already has 2 convictions in Louisiana ought to move to Mississippi, Arkansas or Texas.

But we don't want any more people moving here.

They lock them up for the lulz!

I was born in the south and have family in Louisiana. I have earned the right to criticize.