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09 Apr 2023, 11:21 pm

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It looks like sex robots aren't really progressing.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... one-thinks

Although, they are improving.

https://nypost.com/2022/06/08/sex-robot ... -of-touch/


My libido will be long gone by the time they get sexbots to the point they are worth purchasing.



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10 Apr 2023, 1:48 am

Apparently, some ppl in the know are terrified of AI.
I don't have the imagination to understand why.



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10 Apr 2023, 1:50 am

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But will AI make memes & gifs, and will they be funny?


Yes.
There is nothing particularly special about humanity.
Ppl take themselves too seriously.



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10 Apr 2023, 1:54 am

Honey69 wrote:
It looks like sex robots aren't really progressing.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... one-thinks

Although, they are improving.

https://nypost.com/2022/06/08/sex-robot ... -of-touch/


I tried to post articles about sexbots, but they were removed.



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10 Apr 2023, 2:13 am

I have to wonder if there is any real difference between an artist creating more of what sells to the public and an AI producing 'art' that is based on its analysis of those same public tastes.  Aside from the human element, I believe there is not much difference at all.

Come to think of it . . . ever since 'Tron' premiered, DisneyCorp has been re-hashing and producing sequels of past hits.

Seems like the "House of iMouse" is already reality.



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10 Apr 2023, 2:41 am

Fnord wrote:
I have to wonder if there is any real difference between an artist creating more of what sells to the public and an AI producing 'art' that is based on its analysis of those same public tastes.  Aside from the human element, I believe there is not much difference at all.

Come to think of it . . . ever since 'Tron' premiered, DisneyCorp has been re-hashing and producing sequels of past hits.

Seems like the "House of iMouse" is already reality.


People will not pay millions to Kilroy the autobot to paint a composite measured artwork drawing randomly from his database or internet



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10 Apr 2023, 6:41 am

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People will not pay millions to Kilroy the autobot to paint a composite measured artwork drawing randomly from his database or internet


...What worries me is that people may instead pay Jeff, the IT guy who knows what keywords to use for the result which corporate desires. They'll dub him an AI artist or a SEO expert.

People are already using these tools to try to replicate certain digital artist's work for whatever design they're trying to achieve. However, it's not quite working out. Trying to make a very specific original work isn't easy. I remember a post that was being shared around where someone who asked the bot to copy a specific artist's work was asking for advice on how to alter their search, so the character would sit down and there would be no cats (the AI bot kept picking up on cats because the artist often used them in their work). This was shared to the artist, who was understandably upset.

Art forgery is nothing new, but it used to at least require some skill. Direct tracing often leads to losing detail. It also limits how the art can be replicated. To be talented at forgery meant dedicating the time to learn art as a craft. Now it means knowing how to use search.

However, some digital artists are fighting back by embedding designs into their art which are invisible to the human eye, but machine learning bots will see this information and get confused. A common one is embedding information which will tell the bot that it is a Picasso piece. So when someone comes along and asks for the bot to copy their work, it'll produce a work which is a messy combination of the artist's style and a random Picasso piece thrown in. Rude imagery is also quite common.

For now, this is a temporary solution, but it's only a matter of time until they figure out how to remove the junk information and how to make their search even more precise.


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10 Apr 2023, 10:29 am

Yeah.


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10 Apr 2023, 12:03 pm

My disability is in large part in the area of earning money, working and productivity. I have social pension and care allowance due to my disability, so I have free money without job. I have general "anti-talent" to jobs. I think that more severe forms of autism or similar disorders make people incapable of (especially or at least) "normal" jobs. Considering universal basic income "immoral" looks "sadistic" to my "mentality". Pleasure and comfort are very important.



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10 Apr 2023, 1:52 pm

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My disability is in large part in the area of earning money, working and productivity. I have social pension and care allowance due to my disability, so I have free money without job. I have general "anti-talent" to jobs. I think that more severe forms of autism or similar disorders make people incapable of (especially or at least) "normal" jobs. Considering universal basic income "immoral" looks "sadistic" to my "mentality". Pleasure and comfort are very important.


It's understandable if you are unable to work due to disability, but people who can work but can't find any suitable work for them because of robots taking over, seems unfair that they have to be jobless. And when conservatives run the UK they bully unemployed people into taking any job even if the jobs aren't there.


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10 Apr 2023, 3:15 pm

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cyberdad wrote:
People are already using these tools to try to replicate certain digital artist's work for whatever design they're trying to achieve. However, it's not quite working out. Trying to make a very specific original work isn't easy. I remember a post that was being shared around where someone who asked the bot to copy a specific artist's work was asking for advice on how to alter their search, so the character would sit down and there would be no cats (the AI bot kept picking up on cats because the artist often used them in their work). This was shared to the artist, who was understandably upset.


I've seen the AI digital artwork. It's highly impressive. One area it's already been touted is in Hollywood set and costume design. In the science fiction genre in particular. Not sure if you have seen the latest Antman movie but that seems to use AI generated CGI

For marketing and advertising creativity that sells > human touch. A lot of this will come down to profits and $$



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11 Apr 2023, 7:54 am

There's a big difference between AI/Bot (a software) and robot (with physical presence).

Jobs that require human contact/presence (ie. healthcare, teacher, blue colllar jobs, actors...etc) are safe in the long run, because robots are very expensive and still limited; they won't replace much anytime soon.

But jobs that can be done only within a computer screen are at a very high risk to be replaced by AI, such as... programming, graphic design, translation, copywriting, e-marketing, content creation...etc.



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11 Apr 2023, 8:00 am

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Then how will people earn money if most jobs out there are going to be taken by stupid robots that don't need to earn money? :roll:


Big corporates don't care if you die from starvation.

Microsoft kicked its entire ethics team prior investing in ChatGPT. Google did the same.

Ethics team: "Guys, this is not how AI should be used-....." - FIRED!!

The ulimate fantasy for CEOs like Elon Musk or Sundar Pichai or Nadella is to be the ONLY one-man remaining in control of the entire company via few clicks; and to be the only one earning salary in their empire.

A one-man empire; that's their ultimate goal.

They don't care the social consequences in that, a population collapse may be in order.



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11 Apr 2023, 8:05 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Jobs that require human contact/presence (ie. healthcare, teacher, blue colllar jobs, actors...etc) are safe in the long run, because robots are very expensive and still limited; they won't replace much anytime soon.

That'll mean anyone who has boys will have to train them to be carpenters, electricians, welders, garbage men, sewer repair, law enforcement, fire fighters etc. and if they're nerds - get them into trading, I'd be tempted to stay STEM as well but STEM may also be destroyed by AI if thousands of hours of chemistry, engineering, etc. can be crunched by models and occasionally human-tested.

I don't believe 'blue collar jobs' in the factory sense will be there (cheaper robotics) unless it's custom job shops which are closer to the trades anyway.


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11 Apr 2023, 8:17 am

Yes. The publisher I work for has already been sent books written by AI. She said they were rubbish...but it won't be long before they get better and start replacing human written books.

Same with art. There's lots of AI art out there.

Humans will soon be irrelevant as AI will be doing everything.

Although the social services and care sector would surely be a tough one for AI to work in? How would AI bathe people and interact with them? That would be very advanced robots wouldn't it.


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11 Apr 2023, 9:08 am

A chart posted by Matthias Bastian on DECODER:
https://the-decoder.com/openai-job-market-study-gpt-4/

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