To religious people. Will atheists go to hell or heaven?

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The Bible indicates that atheists will go to Hell.

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things." (Romans 1:16-23)

Jesus: "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." (Mark 16:16)

If you can read these quotes, and still think that Christ is not worth in-depth study, then you are prideful, and you are willfully rejecting God.

Good. And Proud to be pagan. How does your deity like that? Too bad so sad if he don't

It is sad for Him, yes, but will be moreso for you.

what if pagans are the right ones?

Then Raggy is in for one helluva shock.

If you do any honest research, the evidence shows that they are not.

ohh because christians killed a lot of them
you have no idea what happens when we die
you just have a stupid book to go by
pagans have existed longer then christianity has
far far longer!!
thousands of years
and it still exists
don't think your better then me because a book said so
a lot of books say things, doesn't mean you listen to them

Again, QFT, Kilroy. He just doesn;t know when he's beaten. Or maybe he does, seeing as I've heard some Xians practise flagellation.

those stupid nuts

the way I see it if God made me-then he did a pertty sh***y job of it!
I used to have faith-it's gone now!
people have tried for years to make me read that bible s**t
all that book is good for is trippy song lyrics and s**t to laugh at (eg televangilists)
nothing good comes out of Christianity for me
nothing!

The problem with honest research is that it often points to atheism, or at least according to all your anti-evolution threads ...

And Ragtime, I just have to say, you are accomplishing the opposite of what I assume you are trying to set out to do - convert people. Repeatedly telling people that disagree with your interpretation the bible, when they have repeatedly told you that they just don't believe, is only going to push them further away. If you really want to sell your ideas, and not just feel self-righteous, then you need to come up with a new strategy.

No, because their faith is based on obvious self-delusion!
The beliefs of Paganism even sound completely stupid,
even before one researches its dubious roots.



No, I have Jesus Christ living in my heart.



God existed before all creation. And He is the author of Christianity.



It is up to God to judge who is better, and that is something that does not
interest me one bit, when compared to the grateful knowledge I have
that I will see God because I have believed Him.



The Bible is the best book in the whole world, and history has borne witness to that consistently.

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yeah I agree-I know a girl-who is always trying to convert me, she does a really good job with it too-though I am hard to presuade lol and she hasn't cracked me yet

On the contrary, Atheism is one of the most dishonest beliefs a person can entertain.
That a deity exists matching the character of the God of the Bible is incontravertible in evidence all around us daily!



I am not trying to convert people -- not here and now. I'm speaking of your damnation.
You have a chance to turn, but most of you will not. Jesus did not come to save everyone:

"And Jesus said, 'For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.'" (John 9:39)

As His recurrent scathing curses of scribes and Pharisees reveals, Jesus came to preach salvation to some, but damnation to others.

wow what an ass hole jesus was

there is no proof God actually exists
I can't see your God

where is he?
heaven? where is that

same with satan I am nt one siding this
where's these things eh?
my damnation-oooh scary
I gotta safrafice my spiritual freedom to something I can't see
thanking this God for all the things I did and only me
I went back to high school God didn't make me
seriously-there were no voics in my head telling me
and this god certainly doesn't control me

Evidence that you couldn't actually name, despite the fact that several threads have been created to encourage you to do so. You can't keep claiming evidence, then not produce it and expect people to believe you.


So, you want people to go to hell? As I said, your sanctamonus preaching is pushing people away from Christ. Unless you are sincerely trying to save people, then the only reason for you to continue in a strategy that is ultimately damning more people is to feed your own ego, or if you are really an agent of Satan.

If you are too lazy to learn from what hasn't worked, and too cowardly to search for what would, then you are no better then the servant who buried his gold in the ground. When true judgement comes, you will be found lacking, just as that servant was. Those who have invested and risked trying something new will outshine your meager offerings.

If you have spiritual freedom, then why are you beholden to Wicca?
That is your spiritual prison. Satan offers you power -- whether you recognize him
as Satan or not -- and you accept it on whatever terms it comes with because
you feel powerless, and prideful that you deserve power.
But what's happening is Satan is enlisting you in his army,
and using you as a living conduit through which his destructive power can flow.
In Wicca, you work for Satan.
Therefore, you have no "spiritual freedom".