Why do people still support Trump?

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Having bad credit isn't a racial issue. Being denied loans that would be approved for someone else with similar credit rating might be. Being denied loans to move into certain communities (redlining) most certainly was an issue.

I think what matters the most depends on who is giving out the loan.

From here on out, whenever I find something about Trump being a terrible person, I’ll post about it on this thread and say “this is who half the country wants as president”. Here it goes:

Joe Biden has tweeted recently, and I’ve seen other sources say this too, that 3 years ago Trump had called a group of white supremacists “very fine people”. This is who half the country want to be president for the next 4 years.

Oh okay, but isn't racism always going to exist though, and it's an unfixable problem, so maybe a lot of people on the right just accept it as an unfixable problem? Or is there a culture in the world that does not have any racism in it, that people can aspire to?

Ashton Kutcher, an Iowa native, calls out the president for not sending out federal relief for the derecho that hit here 5 days ago. That president is who half the country wants to vote for.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/a ... ly-derecho

Even if there isn't a 'perfect' society to model ourselves on, is that an excuse to never strive to improve? Racism isn't the same as prejudice, perhaps we can't eliminate all racial prejudice, but that's not an excuse for not striving to eliminate institutional racism.

Declaring something to be an unfixable problem seems like an excuse for not even trying.

Apparently a good chunk of my town is still without power.

Oh okay, but what can we do to improve since neither the left or ride side has an answer? Why are they taking such different stances on a problem which neither of them have an answer for?

I wouldn't say saying it's unfixable is not an excuse for not trying, it's just no one has any solutions.

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That's a good question!

So if no one has any answers and it's not a solvable problem, then why keep on protesting about in the U.S.? Why don't the protestors just go home and rest? It's not an excuse of not trying, it's not coming to terms with there will always be racist jerks in the world.

People are angry and fed up with this corrupt system that allows police officers to sadistically murder black people and get away with it.

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Yes I understand that people are sick of it, but holding up signs that saying you are sick of it, doesn't help. Why bother if it doesn't help and it's not a solution...

Plus if there is other systems in the world that are less racist, then why do people think that holding up signs, being angry is actually going to make any difference when there is no better system?

Protests against systemic racism are about improving a deeply flawed system built on deeply flawed mindsets (to put it extremely mildly). The gatherings, signs, and chanting, etc. help make it clear to leaders on all levels that it's an important issue to many of their constituents, that they're not going to ignore their actions or inaction, and that they will be held accountable one way or another. People are inspired and motivated to work harder (support one another, pressure politicians, donate to charities, or run for office themselves, for example) when they know they aren't alone in their concerns. Even those who don't attend may be moved to learn more, to discuss the issues, and to create higher standards for themselves and their communities. In short, it DOES help.

That may not be your definition of a "solution" if you think there's a clear beginning and end to social matters, that things always move forward and never back, and that each and every protest produces instant, hefty results--but it IT is one of the ways to make change.

Protesting has solved problems in the past. If people didn't protest, women wouldn't be allowed to vote to this day, women wouldn't be allowed to have more human rights, we would still be ruled by Great Britain, slavery would still be legal, and so on.

So yes, protesting works and it can take years for a change to happen. Women were not allowed to vote in the US until 1920 (white women only) and they had been protesting it since the 1850s.

Oh okay, but what change would happen to improve on racism as a result of the protests though. I don't think racists are all of a sudden going to change, because the protesters have tugged on their heart strings are they?

They want cops to stop being prejudice against blacks that causes them to act more aggressive towards them leading to their death.