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Well, you wouldn't eat the hair anyway. In any case, boiling animals alive is done to cook them in a few cases anyway. http://app1.chinadaily.com.cn/star/2004 ... u18-1.html Just read the part about the donkey being cooked by using boiling water on it and having parts of it's body cut off while it is still alive.

San zhi er is definitely the tastier dish as compared to the donkey. I mean, live baby mice, still screaming as you chomp down on them? Fine dining just does not get any better than that.

Well, I'd say you serve that as an appetizer before the boiled cat. Move up the food chain and all that.

Well, if we're moving up the food chain, you know what comes next after the boiled cat...

Cannibalism? We did just eat a cat and a mouse, meaning we are above both. Or are you trying to suggest dog meat? In any case, how many courses will this meal have?

Dogs don't eat cats. You should see my sister's St. Bernard around a housecat. It seems more likely to get eaten than to eat.

Well, for moving up the food chain, what eats a kitten boiled in milk? I can think of only one thing. The meal will have as many courses as necessary to get to the top of the food chain.

Orwell you are totally missing the point. whose cares about the taste or sogginess, it is the beauty of killing and cooking the kittens in something they love that counts. Anyhow after the boiling you could always smoke them, this would dry the kittens out and give them a subtle flavour

I still say strangling is the best way to go. If you insist on killing them with something they love, for crying out loud, just strangle them with a length of yarn or a bit of string. Or stuff one of those dyed rabbit's feet in their throat and let them suffocate. Cats like rabbit's feet at least as much as they like milk, probably more.

Ahhh Orwell you have no finesse

Those were 5 minute examples of the first 3 pages of PPR. I personally am not offended by the discourse in PPR. But when PPR spills into the other forums or when new people watching get the feeling that they will be instantly flamed, or in some circumstances they begin to think it is ok to attack people because the other forum members do so... well then your opinion of my opinion is lost.

I once had a 3rd grader overhear someone in his family talking about sex and then came to school, walked up to a girl he liked and told her that he wanted to everything he had heard... to her. Now you can argue all day that it is perfectly acceptable for you to talk about sex. But when an 8 yr old girl's father comes gunning for you because your kid told his kid that he was going to f*&k her. It's your fault, and you will pay for it. And when every other kid in the class comes home and tells their parents what they heard at school. Child services will be knocking at your door... followed by a mob of pissed off parents.

You can go around saying anything you want and claiming it is your right, because the person you are saying it to "has an understanding with you". But most of the time your conversations can be overheard by a number of people, and you are responsible for what those people hear. Say what you want, but don't be surprised when someone comes knocking on your door with a little surprise.

That being said, most of what I said in the OP applies well beyond PPR into every facet of life. If you want someone to respect you or listen to you then insulting everyone who disagrees with you is the worst way to do so. Either by insulting them personally or their beliefs. Because for all you know... your the one who is an idiot and they are they smart ones because your beliefs are ignorant/sluttish and their beliefs are more logical/?pure? and you were never able to see it because you adhered to your belief system to strongly. By being open and calm and respectful... you make it easier to convince other people of the logic/rationality of your belief or you are more able to change your potentially irrational beliefs for more accurate ones.

1. religion does not indicate irrationality, stupidity, ignorance, nor lack of logic.

2. belief in religion does not indicate imminent danger.

I agree with the assertion of a neutral universe. I disagree with the assertion that the universe is all there is.

I really think you are blowing the dynamics of PPR completely out of proportion, I have made my feelings known on your issue with this; now I will let it be.

and I am saying that the advice applies only partially to PPR.

Of course strangling kitties is funny, but no one bats an eyelash that we do likewise to sea kitties! Wake up people!

It really isn't the same.... I mean, the milk laced with catnip is just classy, but your ideas... well, they aren't.

As I said he has no finesse,