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17 Jan 2012, 8:56 pm

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No what?


For the sake of saying "no".



I'm sooooooooooooo annoyed right now.


Really?


I don't know. What do you think?



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17 Jan 2012, 9:11 pm

JWC wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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No what?


For the sake of saying "no".



I'm sooooooooooooo annoyed right now.


Really?


I don't know. What do you think?


That if you don't know if you are annoyed or not that you might not be.



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17 Jan 2012, 9:17 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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No what?


For the sake of saying "no".



I'm sooooooooooooo annoyed right now.


Really?


I don't know. What do you think?


That if you don't know if you are annoyed or not that you might not be.


Sometimes.



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17 Jan 2012, 9:54 pm

I know how it is to deal with people just mocking me for my problems....it sucks and usually makes me feel like crap. I don't really understand why someone would go out of their way to mock someone for their difficulties. As if they can just simply not have those difficulties on a moments notice.


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17 Jan 2012, 11:57 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL8e2ujXe8g[/youtube]



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18 Jan 2012, 12:20 am

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL8e2ujXe8g[/youtube]


Try telling that to the maid & everybody else involved. Mega-steroids were alleged to make those problems fall off, but didn't, for promo-Bork Mr. Universe while pumping iron.

Makes marriage vows sound like a threat.

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18 Jan 2012, 12:39 am

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Whiny asses should quit crying.


At least those who whine about the whining of others. People who have a reason to complain should not be mocked for complaining as it just plain disregards their actual reason for complaining and shifts the focus to the emotional stability of the people complaining about those who actually have a real reason to complain.



Complainers should be flamethrowered.


No, bullies would be better if they were BBQed.


Nu-uh, I'm telling!! !


Is this an instance of transubstantial gatekeepers, and do they issue Official Pity Pot Party Pass Certificates in octuples???

Thank all the Edith Middletons' "Brave Captains"?

Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me,

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18 Jan 2012, 12:44 am

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I know how it is to deal with people just mocking me for my problems....it sucks and usually makes me feel like crap. I don't really understand why someone would go out of their way to mock someone for their difficulties. As if they can just simply not have those difficulties on a moments notice.


I think it's really a matter of selfishness on the part of some people, that it bothers them to hear about others having troubles and perhaps it makes them want to do something and yet they also don't want to help because that would require effort and so they lash out. Others, I think anyway, just enjoy being mean and getting reactions from their victims. I'd prefer to think that the majority of people who behave like this are just overly tired of hearing bad news and react poorly, but seriously though the way they treat others shows them to be more of a bully intentionally.



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18 Jan 2012, 12:47 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
I know how it is to deal with people just mocking me for my problems....it sucks and usually makes me feel like crap. I don't really understand why someone would go out of their way to mock someone for their difficulties. As if they can just simply not have those difficulties on a moments notice.


People mock for various reasons. Sometimes it's jealousy over a different matter (be it anything from good grades to having a certain friend), sometimes it's lack of understanding.

Other times it's just cruelty. Humans are bastards. As a race we have always enjoyed others suffering and always will, and many of us will take it upon ourselves to make other feel worse.


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18 Jan 2012, 1:21 am

There are some places where saying that is a really sick thing to do.



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18 Jan 2012, 2:48 am

abacacus wrote:
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I know how it is to deal with people just mocking me for my problems....it sucks and usually makes me feel like crap. I don't really understand why someone would go out of their way to mock someone for their difficulties. As if they can just simply not have those difficulties on a moments notice.


People mock for various reasons. Sometimes it's jealousy over a different matter (be it anything from good grades to having a certain friend), sometimes it's lack of understanding.

Other times it's just cruelty. Humans are bastards. As a race we have always enjoyed others suffering and always will, and many of us will take it upon ourselves to make other feel worse.


Well hmm I did not know the majority of humans enjoyed others suffering.


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18 Jan 2012, 2:50 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
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I know how it is to deal with people just mocking me for my problems....it sucks and usually makes me feel like crap. I don't really understand why someone would go out of their way to mock someone for their difficulties. As if they can just simply not have those difficulties on a moments notice.


People mock for various reasons. Sometimes it's jealousy over a different matter (be it anything from good grades to having a certain friend), sometimes it's lack of understanding.

Other times it's just cruelty. Humans are bastards. As a race we have always enjoyed others suffering and always will, and many of us will take it upon ourselves to make other feel worse.


Well hmm I did not know the majority of humans enjoyed others suffering.


Maybe I'm just being stunned but I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not :lol:


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18 Jan 2012, 2:51 am

Anyways though a good example of this topic is how some people seem to think if you mention your problems they seem to think it means you think you're saying you have it worse than anyone else in the entire universe. Makes one want to bottle things up even more than they already do.


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18 Jan 2012, 8:31 am

I don't think it's complaining thats the problem, so much as it's constant complaining. When someone has a truly valid complaint, or a real problem, or is having a bad time, that's completely understandable. What becomes annoying is when someone constantly complains about every single thing and nothing is ever good or good enough, in fact it's horrible, they are out to get me, oh no, is when it starts getting on people's nerves.

Most people will sympathise with someone who occasionally complains. Everyone occasionally complains. It's the people who do it constantly that bother me. Nobody wants to be around that kind of negativity. When people constantly complain, then others back off and stay away from them, they see that as proof that they aren't liked so therefore their complaints are true, when in fact it's their constant complaining that drives others away.

Those kind of people, you can't even have a conversation with. If you tell them something good that happened to you, they just start about how "oh, that never happens to me, poor me, yaddah yaddah" instead of saying something nice. If you do something nice for them it becomes "Yeah well, you did this but I still don't have this or that or the other thing" and on and on. It drives people away. My mother is like this. Thats why nobody really goes to see her or does anything for her. Let her sit there and hate everyone and feel persecuted alone.


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18 Jan 2012, 7:05 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
I don't think it's complaining thats the problem, so much as it's constant complaining. When someone has a truly valid complaint, or a real problem, or is having a bad time, that's completely understandable. What becomes annoying is when someone constantly complains about every single thing and nothing is ever good or good enough, in fact it's horrible, they are out to get me, oh no, is when it starts getting on people's nerves.

Most people will sympathise with someone who occasionally complains. Everyone occasionally complains. It's the people who do it constantly that bother me. Nobody wants to be around that kind of negativity. When people constantly complain, then others back off and stay away from them, they see that as proof that they aren't liked so therefore their complaints are true, when in fact it's their constant complaining that drives others away.

Those kind of people, you can't even have a conversation with. If you tell them something good that happened to you, they just start about how "oh, that never happens to me, poor me, yaddah yaddah" instead of saying something nice. If you do something nice for them it becomes "Yeah well, you did this but I still don't have this or that or the other thing" and on and on. It drives people away. My mother is like this. Thats why nobody really goes to see her or does anything for her. Let her sit there and hate everyone and feel persecuted alone.


Hi OliveOilMom,

Professionals tend to make the same mistake:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/healt ... nted=print

"When All Else Fails, Blaming the Patient Often Comes Next"

I read an article a while back that claimed "depression" to be a contagious mental illness (many psychiatrists claim the same, but they love to wallow in their own professional nonsense too much to be believable, though they do have a strong tendency to hit the bottle a bit much), but that trail of logic will soon make the fallacious claim that all disorders are themselves also contagious (back to "trained to autism" by refrigerator moms?).

While I've been having many "happy" ecstatic seizures (with the post-ictal nasties of depression neutralized by the nasties of conditioned visceral responses of intense hatred based in ancient history of very guilty toxic do-gooders), I realize that excess happiness is also regarded as a Mental Illness, and philosophically, I like the quotation “No mockery in this world ever sounds to me so hollow as that of being told to cultivate happiness,” Charlotte Brontë wrote in 1853. “What does such advice mean? Happiness is not a potato, to be planted in mould and tilled with manure.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/books ... ich&st=cse

With Asperger's also, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) might give a vague clue on seperating the "clean" parts of Asperger's from the "dirty" parts of Asperger's, but I'm sure there will be more self-righetous Mr. & Ms. Dr. Thistlebottoms telling us what's what, than Peter Pan advice flies visiting our potato manure pile of faux happiness.

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18 Jan 2012, 7:12 pm

OliveOilMom wrote:
I don't think it's complaining thats the problem, so much as it's constant complaining. When someone has a truly valid complaint, or a real problem, or is having a bad time, that's completely understandable. What becomes annoying is when someone constantly complains about every single thing and nothing is ever good or good enough, in fact it's horrible, they are out to get me, oh no, is when it starts getting on people's nerves.

Most people will sympathise with someone who occasionally complains. Everyone occasionally complains. It's the people who do it constantly that bother me. Nobody wants to be around that kind of negativity. When people constantly complain, then others back off and stay away from them, they see that as proof that they aren't liked so therefore their complaints are true, when in fact it's their constant complaining that drives others away.

Those kind of people, you can't even have a conversation with. If you tell them something good that happened to you, they just start about how "oh, that never happens to me, poor me, yaddah yaddah" instead of saying something nice. If you do something nice for them it becomes "Yeah well, you did this but I still don't have this or that or the other thing" and on and on. It drives people away. My mother is like this. Thats why nobody really goes to see her or does anything for her. Let her sit there and hate everyone and feel persecuted alone.


What about when people complain about real problems which have existed for decades and still go unresolved, such as WHY THE HECK AREN'T WE ON MARS BY NOW? and such of that sort? We had the technology to go since the Saturn V was made, essentially, and the chemistry necessary to utilize the Martian atmosphere and hydrogen from the water in the regolith has been around since the 1800's. We don't need to sit around anymore, we can go there and yet we just don't.