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29 Oct 2019, 6:15 pm
enz wrote:
In the end only the Samaritan saved him. Fed him, gave him clothes, got him an inn to heal in
And look what that got him.
When is the last time you saw a "Samaritan", good or otherwise?
I think they are extinct.
I think it fair to say that god/evolution hates people with good intentions.
kraftiekortie wrote:
He was pretty cool. I used to like him growing up.
He was a sheriff who had a deputy named Deputy Droop-a-Long whose bullets from his rifle used to sag, rather than go straight.
He was a sheriff who had a deputy named Deputy Droop-a-Long whose bullets from his rifle used to sag, rather than go straight.
Ahhh.
Nostalgia.
Reminds me of my sex life,
When I had one.
29 Oct 2019, 6:24 pm
Dial1194 wrote:
I think the problem here is the assumption in the question that religion and goodness (or ethics in general) are somehow connected. And while there are many organized religions which like to claim this (and particularly, of course, for their own specific religion), that claim is never backed up outside that religion.
Many Muslims believe Mohammad's teachings allow them to cheat "infidels", I believe.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Mikah wrote:
Pepe wrote:
I haven't read anything which inspired me to embrace his theological beliefs.
He has used his mind to first identify and then reject atheism as a valid belief. Keep going, you're so close. You're about 2 posts away from realising that atheism is as much faith as any other theism.
If it is a faith,
It is a faith built on reason, not on, err, faith.
29 Oct 2019, 7:20 pm
Mikah wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Why is it wrong to have self-confidence?
In some areas of life it's useful. In matters of thought, lack of doubt is usually a warning sign of a closed, and therefore useless, mind.
"What We've Got Here is Failure to Communicate."
https://youtu.be/bLHZmVHSP7A
You are mixing contexts.
Quote:
o everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time to every purpose, under heaven
A time to be born, a time to die
A time to plant, a time to reap
A time to kill, a time to heal
A time to laugh, a time to weep
To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time to every purpose, under heaven
A time to build up, a time to break down
A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together
To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time to every purpose, under heaven
A time of love, a time of hate
A time of war, a time of peace
A time…
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time to every purpose, under heaven
A time to be born, a time to die
A time to plant, a time to reap
A time to kill, a time to heal
A time to laugh, a time to weep
To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time to every purpose, under heaven
A time to build up, a time to break down
A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together
To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time to every purpose, under heaven
A time of love, a time of hate
A time of war, a time of peace
A time…
https://youtu.be/HaQkX_rXBbA
Yes,
There is a time for reflection.
But there is also a time to build intellectual constructs.
As stated many times:
I embrace scientific methodology and I am a perpetual sceptic engaging in re-evaluation.
If I find a need for change I will change.
However,
There is no need at present,
Since I am goddamn near perfect, atm.
Mikah wrote:
Pepe wrote:
How does it benefit the individual to constantly second-guess themselves?
It's the foundation of all serious thought?
See above.
Mikah wrote:
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Your need to debate these things is an invitation. If you don't want your views to be challenged, don't post about them.
Pepe wrote:
Why would you want to do that to me and others who have found a life strategy which works for us?
Your need to debate these things is an invitation. If you don't want your views to be challenged, don't post about them.
It was a rhetorical question.
I was saying:
What is wrong with sticking with what works?
"Whatever floats your boat."
Mikah wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Do I think I have all the answers to our life system?
Can I see reality in an absolute sense?
Of course not.
I'm not infallible,
I am not omniscient,
Can I see reality in an absolute sense?
Of course not.
I'm not infallible,
I am not omniscient,
Mikah wrote:
Yet you're a "hard atheist" You're certain there is no God or anything else - at least certain enough to live as though that were the case.
Firstly, if there is a god he made a right old balls-up and then blamed his creation for the mess?
Dude.
BTW, I hope you aren't playing "Devil's Advocate" here.
I don't think the "Big Guy" would be happy with you. <EEP!>
So what are you saying?
You are or you are not a theist and believe in your faith?
Mikah wrote:
I'm just trying to help you out of the unthinking, spiritually dead black hole that is Atheism. It is as dumb and as rigidly stupid as Bible literalism.
WOW!
As John Oliver would say.
Aren't you guys supposed to be warm an fuzzy?
Dude.
29 Oct 2019, 7:52 pm
Pepe wrote:
Firstly, if there is a god he made a right old balls-up and then blamed his creation for the mess?
Dude.
BTW, I hope you aren't playing "Devil's Advocate" here.
I don't think the "Big Guy" would be happy with you. <EEP!>
So what are you saying?
You are or you are not a theist and believe in your faith?
Dude.
BTW, I hope you aren't playing "Devil's Advocate" here.
I don't think the "Big Guy" would be happy with you. <EEP!>
So what are you saying?
You are or you are not a theist and believe in your faith?
You're missing the nub of this conversation and attacking a certain vision of theism in response like a well-trained youtube addict. This is not about Christianity or any other faith. Discard them all from your mind for the time being, keeping science if you wish and ponder the universe.
How did it come to be? Was there a before? Was there a who involved? What is outside of it? Is there a purpose to it all?
The only honest answer a human can give is "I don't know".
Atheism from this position of no knowledge is faith that one or more of the answers to these questions is no.
Pepe wrote:
WOW!
As John Oliver would say.
Aren't you guys supposed to be warm an fuzzy?
Dude.
As John Oliver would say.
Aren't you guys supposed to be warm an fuzzy?
Dude.
A common misconception.
Edit I missed that:
Pepe wrote:
It is a faith built on reason, not on, err, faith.
Reason can only take you as far as agnosticism.
29 Oct 2019, 9:54 pm
Mikah wrote:
How did it come to be? Was there a before? Was there a who involved? What is outside of it? Is there a purpose to it all?
How did god come to be? Was there a before god? Was there a who involved who made god?
What is outside of it? Who cares.
Is there a purpose to it all? No.
Mikah wrote:
The only honest answer a human can give is "I don't know".
You forget.
I am not human.
I joined the Vulcan Confedferacy decades ago.
BTW, The Vulcan answer regarding whether or not there is a purpose to life is: "Logically speaking, probably not". V
Mikah wrote:
Reason can only take you as far as agnosticism.
Atheism: "disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods." https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... &q=Atheism
Trust me,
I am an Atheist,
And my reasoning ability had everything/k to do with it.
29 Oct 2019, 10:11 pm
Pepe wrote:
How did god come to be? Was there a before god? Was there a who involved who made god?
What is outside of it? Who cares.
Is there a purpose to it all? No.
What is outside of it? Who cares.
Is there a purpose to it all? No.
Not caring is one thing, but you do not know the answers to these questions.
Pepe wrote:
You forget.
I am not human.
I joined the Vulcan Confedferacy decades ago.
BTW, The Vulcan answer regarding whether or not there is a purpose to life is: "Logically speaking, probably not". V
I am not human.
I joined the Vulcan Confedferacy decades ago.
BTW, The Vulcan answer regarding whether or not there is a purpose to life is: "Logically speaking, probably not". V
Righty-o.
Pepe wrote:
Trust me,
I am an Atheist,
And my reasoning ability had everything/k to do with it.
I am an Atheist,
And my reasoning ability had everything/k to do with it.
I do not have to trust you, it is obviously untrue if you just think about it for a minute. You do not have the requisite knowledge to apply reason in this instance. You may think you reasoned your way into it - but the human mind often likes to deceive itself in this way. Do not mistake rationalisation for reason.
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