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Pepe
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25 Apr 2020, 9:11 pm

Fnord wrote:
Whale_Tuune wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Whale_Tuune wrote:
Most people hold on to some irrational beliefs.  Occam's razor also doesn't deal with reality.  It's an assumption that helps people conduct experiments and test things.  It's not meant to tell you what to believe outside of the realm of testable hypotheses.
Ahh ... but this "realm of testable hypotheses" you refer to actually IS reality!
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Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?
You really believe that everything that is "real" can be tested and understood by humankind ... ?
Yes.  Eventually, humans may even understand the quantum underpinnings of reality itself.  Until then, humans will keep testing and increasing our understanding.



Lawrence Krauss made the point that humanity/huwomanity has difficultly with quantum physics because it wasn't necessary/useful in the initial stages of "man's" evolution.
Having said that, I doubt the evolutionary process is naturally going to accommodate the understanding, comprehensively, of this life system.
Tell me if I am mistaken,
If I am,
At the end of the universe. :wink:

"The unknown, unknowns",
And "Onion Peeling",
"Wheels within wheels (?), sort of thingies.

Your assumption seems to be: Humanity has some relevance, in the scheme of things.
Observation suggests to me that personkind is incidental/irrelevant,
Hence no inherent justification for the optimism, imo.

You place too much importance, on the naked ape, Dr Watson. 8)



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25 Apr 2020, 9:24 pm

Fnord wrote:
While you and I may never see FTL travel in our lifetimes, I have hope that Humanity may one day figure out a work-around to the Causality Principle -- not much faith, mind you; just hope.


Why?

You do realise: Life equates to suffering.
Why escape the expanding giant red sun,
Only to perpetuate the suffering, elsewhere, for no purpose? :scratch:
Surely, personkind has suffered enough...
Where is your humanity, man? 8O

In the series, "Battlestar Galactica",
The pointless birth, and rebirth, was a sad, and tragic, indictment/commentary on the irrationality of human psychology.

Talk about an emotional orgy, in that Sy Fy production. 8O