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03 Oct 2012, 10:29 am

- When you post in a thread named "You know you're a leftist moron when" arguing how such threads are wrong, while gleefully participating in a thread called "You know you're a right-wing nutjob when".



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03 Oct 2012, 12:55 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
- You know you are a leftwing nutjob when you can't laugh at yourself but find anything that bashes your left wing views to be highly offensive.

- You know you're a leftwing nutjob when you think anyone that disagrees with you is a right-wing extremist. (Wait guess you wouldn't realize it at that point).

- You know you're a leftwing nutjob when you start talking like Bill Maher.

- You make shrines to Al Gore and altars to worship Obama.

Anyways I found the Rightwing thread to be rather amusing at times, just didn't bother posting on it. I just find it interesting so many people are getting offended by this thread.


The problem is US-centric right-wingers like yourself don't know any real-life leftwing nutjobs so your characterizations fall flat. All you know is the Fox Noise characterization of the left as anyone who votes for a democrat rather than a republican. For instance you don't realize that most far-left people like to distance themselves from Obama and the DNC that are your main targets. You don't seem to realize there are different kinds of "liberals" with different views and they are not exactly alike just because they all fall into a camp that disagrees with your US-centric right-wing stances.



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03 Oct 2012, 1:21 pm

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The problem is US-centric right-wingers like yourself don't know any real-life leftwing nutjobs so your characterizations fall flat. All you know is the Fox Noise characterization of the left as anyone who votes for a democrat rather than a republican. For instance you don't realize that most far-left people like to distance themselves from Obama and the DNC that are your main targets. You don't seem to realize there are different kinds of "liberals" with different views and they are not exactly alike just because they all fall into a camp that disagrees with your US-centric right-wing stances.


I actually know quite a lot of European left-wingers and the Faux News characterizations are surprisingly accurate descriptions of them. Of course, there are various camps on the left as there is on the right, however it seems that it is much more important to point that out in this thread, than it was for you to point it out in the right-wing thread.

On the "left" you have anything from hardcore communists to anarchist variations, you have social democrats, socialists, social liberals and so on.

On the right on the other hand, we only have laissez-faire, Bible-thumping, gun totin', tea party members who'd like nothing more than to watch your diversely populated left-wing camp burn in Hell, while we all watch from our seats with Jesus and the founding fathers next to us.



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03 Oct 2012, 2:17 pm

I don't own a Bible. Or a gun. I don't even have a tea set.

I don't really match up to the "evil righties" stereotype, do I?

It's probably worth mentioning that a fair few people in Europe used to be on the left (especially liberals of various descriptions) and they've become more and more right-wing. They still believe in a welfare state, and they still heartily dislike the obnoxious "conservative" types but they feel increasingly alienated from the left in rhetoric and what the left claims to believe in. They believe in "freedom", but only for things that they approve of/agree with.

I'm one of them. I used to be in the Lib Dems. I'd still be in the party if they were a real liberal party that actually stood up against things whilst protecting people's freedoms, but they're not.



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03 Oct 2012, 2:40 pm

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I don't own a Bible. Or a gun. I don't even have a tea set.

I don't really match up to the "evil righties" stereotype, do I?


It was a sarcastic response designed to point out that while most of the "leftist" front on the PPR board felt quite comfortable bashing "right wing nutjobs" they got all holy and felt the need to point out that not all "lefties" are the same.

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It's probably worth mentioning that a fair few people in Europe used to be on the left (especially liberals of various descriptions) and they've become more and more right-wing. They still believe in a welfare state, and they still heartily dislike the obnoxious "conservative" types but they feel increasingly alienated from the left in rhetoric and what the left claims to believe in. They believe in "freedom", but only for things that they approve of/agree with.

I'm one of them. I used to be in the Lib Dems. I'd still be in the party if they were a real liberal party that actually stood up against things whilst protecting people's freedoms, but they're not.


I'm actually quite liberal in a lot of fields, anti-death penalty, pro gay rights, pro abortion and so on. The only places where my view differers largely from the "left" of my country is in terms of economics and immigration. Sure I'm not a huge fan of the women's rights lobby and how it manifests in a lot of countries (empowering women by taking away their power), nor am I a fan of the increasing political "caste" that seems to be growing forth in Europe, but I'm largely liberal in most areas.



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03 Oct 2012, 2:41 pm

TM wrote:
Tequila wrote:
I don't own a Bible. Or a gun. I don't even have a tea set.

I don't really match up to the "evil righties" stereotype, do I?


It was a sarcastic response designed to point out that while most of the "leftist" front on the PPR board felt quite comfortable bashing "right wing nutjobs" they got all holy and felt the need to point out that not all "lefties" are the same.


I know that. ;)

I'm pointing out that we're not. In fact, most right-wingers in Europe are nothing like the "left-wing" stereotype of us.



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03 Oct 2012, 2:53 pm

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TM wrote:
Tequila wrote:
I don't own a Bible. Or a gun. I don't even have a tea set.

I don't really match up to the "evil righties" stereotype, do I?


It was a sarcastic response designed to point out that while most of the "leftist" front on the PPR board felt quite comfortable bashing "right wing nutjobs" they got all holy and felt the need to point out that not all "lefties" are the same.


I know that. ;)

I'm pointing out that we're not. In fact, most right-wingers in Europe are nothing like the "left-wing" stereotype of us.


Neither are most Republicans really, it just so happens that the Republican Party was somewhat "taken over" by the Evangelical "Bible over Brains" wing around the time of Ronald Reagan.



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03 Oct 2012, 3:19 pm

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- When you post in a thread named "You know you're a leftist moron when" arguing how such threads are wrong, while gleefully participating in a thread called "You know you're a right-wing nutjob when".
:lol:

This thread must be drowning in a river full of tears.



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03 Oct 2012, 4:22 pm

Is it weird I find American liberals and American conservatives equally self-righteous and crazy?



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04 Oct 2012, 1:31 pm

TM wrote:
Tequila wrote:
I don't own a Bible. Or a gun. I don't even have a tea set.

I don't really match up to the "evil righties" stereotype, do I?


It was a sarcastic response designed to point out that while most of the "leftist" front on the PPR board felt quite comfortable bashing "right wing nutjobs" they got all holy and felt the need to point out that not all "lefties" are the same.


Goes to show which side really is tolerant, and which is intolerant.



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04 Oct 2012, 2:05 pm

I always read it as nutjobs who are right wing. Not that all right wing are nut jobs.

Also, there's a difference between being a nut job and a moron. I should know.

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04 Oct 2012, 2:13 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
TM wrote:
Tequila wrote:
I don't own a Bible. Or a gun. I don't even have a tea set.

I don't really match up to the "evil righties" stereotype, do I?


It was a sarcastic response designed to point out that while most of the "leftist" front on the PPR board felt quite comfortable bashing "right wing nutjobs" they got all holy and felt the need to point out that not all "lefties" are the same.


Goes to show which side really is tolerant, and which is intolerant.


I've found that it has little with tolerance and more to do with morality. "Morality based" groups are rarely tolerant because any organized set of moral guidelines over time become absolute.

For instance, I'm against racism, however I don't think its morally acceptable, justifiable or on any level proper to throw bricks at EDL members. I'm also against communism, but I think the McCarthy trials was taking s**t a bit too far.



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04 Oct 2012, 2:15 pm

Hopper wrote:
I always read it as nutjobs who are right wing. Not that all right wing are nut jobs.

Also, there's a difference between being a nut job and a moron. I should know.

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Actually, I think the title of the thread is actually being charitable to the left (then again most left wing morons are also nutjobs).

You know you are a leftwing moron/nutjob when you phone in phony shootings to the police to try to get Conservative Bloggers gunned down...

You know you are a left wing moron/nutjob when you phone in bomb threats towards Chick'fil'a.



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04 Oct 2012, 3:32 pm

you oppose slavery and support social justice.



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04 Oct 2012, 3:34 pm

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you oppose slavery and support social justice.


When you define slavery as;

- Being paid a wage relative to what you produce in terms of value

When you define "social justice" as;

- Spending other people's money to buy goods and service I haven't earned.



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04 Oct 2012, 3:39 pm

-you're a hemp-eating, hybrid-driving liberal hippie fart sniffer


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