11 May 2016, 4:35 pm
11 May 2016, 8:58 pm
11 May 2016, 9:15 pm
12 May 2016, 1:59 am
AspE wrote:
sly279 wrote:
their judgement cannot be trusted. There is an overwhelming public interest in locking crazy people up.
Next step is removing all their rights. After all if aspies are crazy and can't be trusted and are a danger to society at large. Why let them run lose. In the best Interest of the public to remove their rights and lock them up, and hey if they died while locked up all the better. Nazis did this same thing. They removed disabled people's rights, then they locked them up for publics safety then they exterminated them for the publics best interest.
Disabled people are not any more violent the others, so it's not in public interest to take their rights a way.
The only way what you say would be true is if aspies and other disabled were more prone to violence and the data shows that's not at all true. Most violent crinmals aren't disabled people.
People should only lose their rights after their day in court and being judged by a jury of their peers. DUE PROCESS!! ! ! !
Next step is removing all their rights. After all if aspies are crazy and can't be trusted and are a danger to society at large. Why let them run lose. In the best Interest of the public to remove their rights and lock them up, and hey if they died while locked up all the better. Nazis did this same thing. They removed disabled people's rights, then they locked them up for publics safety then they exterminated them for the publics best interest.
Disabled people are not any more violent the others, so it's not in public interest to take their rights a way.
The only way what you say would be true is if aspies and other disabled were more prone to violence and the data shows that's not at all true. Most violent crinmals aren't disabled people.
People should only lose their rights after their day in court and being judged by a jury of their peers. DUE PROCESS!! ! ! !
Slippery slope fallacy.
I'm sure people in Germany said thst too. Everything's a slip plu slop fallacy until it happens to you. Who cares about other others right.
If you can't handle owning guns, don't own guns, but don't force your problems on others. I don't have your problem.s I am not you, you are not me, so I shouldn't lose my rights because you'd hurt other people.
12 May 2016, 2:06 am
cathylynn wrote:
i have bipolar disorder and will have all my life. i've taken meds faithfully and not had an episode since 1995. no one who has known me for the last twenty years would guess i had a mental illness were they not told. it's nonsensical to restrict ANY of my rights. if someone is neither suicidal nor homicidal (hospitalizable) i can't see where restrictions are anything besides scapegoating.
Like most a it gunners he's projecting hi else onto others. He's prone to violent thoughts and so for so are others.
"If I owned guns I'd probably kill my neighbors, so therefore I'm afraid of my neighbor owning guns." I've heard this a quite a bit from anti gun people.
I've also seen lots of death threats from anti gun people. I think by and large most anti gun people are violent natured and project thst on society at large. Much like I use to project my naive and kindess on society.
I find it irritating a fellow aspie would label aspies as violent and mentally ill. The Stigma the autism groups have been fighting to remove forever. He probably thinks we're all mass shooters in the waiting
12 May 2016, 7:06 am
12 May 2016, 8:51 am
sly279 wrote:
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I'm sure people in Germany said thst too. Everything's a slip plu slop fallacy until it happens to you. Who cares about other others right.
If you can't handle owning guns, don't own guns, but don't force your problems on others. I don't have your problem.s I am not you, you are not me, so I shouldn't lose my rights because you'd hurt other people.
I'm sure people in Germany said thst too. Everything's a slip plu slop fallacy until it happens to you. Who cares about other others right.
If you can't handle owning guns, don't own guns, but don't force your problems on others. I don't have your problem.s I am not you, you are not me, so I shouldn't lose my rights because you'd hurt other people.
If you are mentally ill, you should lose at least one right, the right to own a deadly weapon. Sorry if public safety feels like Nazi Germany to you. I think it will result in fewer people getting killed, not more.
12 May 2016, 9:11 am
12 May 2016, 9:25 am
12 May 2016, 10:01 am
12 May 2016, 12:01 pm
12 May 2016, 12:39 pm
12 May 2016, 12:43 pm
AspE wrote:
sly279 wrote:
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I'm sure people in Germany said thst too. Everything's a slip plu slop fallacy until it happens to you. Who cares about other others right.
If you can't handle owning guns, don't own guns, but don't force your problems on others. I don't have your problem.s I am not you, you are not me, so I shouldn't lose my rights because you'd hurt other people.
I'm sure people in Germany said thst too. Everything's a slip plu slop fallacy until it happens to you. Who cares about other others right.
If you can't handle owning guns, don't own guns, but don't force your problems on others. I don't have your problem.s I am not you, you are not me, so I shouldn't lose my rights because you'd hurt other people.
If you are mentally ill, you should lose at least one right, the right to own a deadly weapon. Sorry if public safety feels like Nazi Germany to you. I think it will result in fewer people getting killed, not more.
this is misinformed. contrary to popular belief, folks with mental illness without substance abuse are NO MORE LIKELY to be violent than any joe on the street. please read back in the thread for stats and references. untrue negative beliefs like that have far-ranging consequences far beyond gun ownership including difficulty in getting jobs for folks with mental illness.
12 May 2016, 1:48 pm
12 May 2016, 2:20 pm
AspE wrote:
sly279 wrote:
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I'm sure people in Germany said thst too. Everything's a slip plu slop fallacy until it happens to you. Who cares about other others right.
If you can't handle owning guns, don't own guns, but don't force your problems on others. I don't have your problem.s I am not you, you are not me, so I shouldn't lose my rights because you'd hurt other people.
I'm sure people in Germany said thst too. Everything's a slip plu slop fallacy until it happens to you. Who cares about other others right.
If you can't handle owning guns, don't own guns, but don't force your problems on others. I don't have your problem.s I am not you, you are not me, so I shouldn't lose my rights because you'd hurt other people.
If you are mentally ill, you should lose at least one right, the right to own a deadly weapon. Sorry if public safety feels like Nazi Germany to you. I think it will result in fewer people getting killed, not more.
As very few mentally ill people kill people and those who have stole the guns, no it won't do s**t other then get lot more disabled people killed.
Mentally adjudicated is determined by a court of law. Some burcocrate in school has no right to call me mentally ill and take my rights. You should leave this site since you hate aspies so much.
12 May 2016, 2:27 pm
sly279 wrote:
AspE wrote:
sly279 wrote:
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I'm sure people in Germany said thst too. Everything's a slip plu slop fallacy until it happens to you. Who cares about other others right.
If you can't handle owning guns, don't own guns, but don't force your problems on others. I don't have your problem.s I am not you, you are not me, so I shouldn't lose my rights because you'd hurt other people.
I'm sure people in Germany said thst too. Everything's a slip plu slop fallacy until it happens to you. Who cares about other others right.
If you can't handle owning guns, don't own guns, but don't force your problems on others. I don't have your problem.s I am not you, you are not me, so I shouldn't lose my rights because you'd hurt other people.
If you are mentally ill, you should lose at least one right, the right to own a deadly weapon. Sorry if public safety feels like Nazi Germany to you. I think it will result in fewer people getting killed, not more.
As very few mentally ill people kill people and those who have stole the guns, no it won't do s**t other then get lot more disabled people killed.
Mentally adjudicated is determined by a court of law. Some burcocrate in school has no right to call me mentally ill and take my rights. You should leave this site since you hate aspies so much.
Even if I thought that autism were a mental illness, it would not be hate to take away a right that puts the public and themselves in danger. Also I provided three examples of mentally ill people who bought guns legally and committed mass murder.
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