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Actually, the left DOES attack those who question and/or criticize their beliefs all the time. They are not about "live and let live" any more so that the right is. Your kneejerk defensive reaction to sly's post just goes to show how many leftists are no less bereft of self-criticism than rightists are.

The primary tool of the left here in the US is character assassination, whereas the primary tool of the right is scapegoating.

And FYI, I actually AM a liberal/on the left for the most part so keep that in mind before you pull out a strawman and accuse me of being a "right wing fanatic".




This is only a recent phenomenon. The belief that people are basically good and have a "natural right" to unrestricted freedom is a very LIBERAL belief. It comes from classical liberalism which is the kernel of modern liberalism. The modern left opposes economic freedom but strongly advocates sexual freedom. The right champions economic and personal freedom(the latter to *some* extent) but opposes sexual freedom and hedonism.

TRUE conservatives, like the late great writer H P Lovecraft, believe(correctly) strongly in government as it is the first and last line of defense against total chaos and perpetual civil warfare. That is because civilization is order in the face of entropy and if that order is not actively maintained, society will fall apart due to innate human selfishness and desire for unlimited personal power. There are some very compelling examples of what life is like in the absence of big government: Afghanistan, Somalia, and the Central African Republic.

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no but the law you and ann were talking about wanting would do just that. and that was what upset me.

I won't send my kids to democrat brainwash factory where they tell them guns are illegal and the words of the founders were wrong etc.

fyi never said I wouldn't vaccinate them but its my choice if i do or not, not jacked boot fug is going make me.

"if you can't win them over with words then just make them comply with force" <------- why can't you see how wrong that is.
if what you want is so f*****g good then you should be able to win people over without use of force.

my ar is not a military equipment. neither are my pistols. though the cz is a pistol used by a military. bolt action rifles are also military equipment.

the whole i dont' want to ban guns just want to ban most of them don't fly.
I dont' want to take your wife I just want to rape her 3 days a week. its a compromise.
imagine that makes you feel upset. well thats how gun owners feel when you people say I don't want to ban guns just all simi automatic guns.


which you said as a response to say that it don't matter if blacks are racist. cause they effect less people.

if they effect just one person then they still wrong for being racist. until both sides stop being racist nothing will change. no amount of white guilt will ever do anything if blacks never stop being racist too. and when some try, the other blacks hate on them for it and call them traitors.

Attack! Attack! Attack! Insult! Demonize! Defend moral relativism! There is no right or wrong, if we want it, it's okay and you're stupid for not agreeing! Truth is irrelevant, all that's real are the "facts" we cherry-pick as talking points to convince the gullible!

Great job making the OPs point.

The proposed law in California would not add to the ways that it is enforced. What it would do is take away personal belief exemptions so that schools could no longer admit children who are not vaccinated because of personal beliefs. It would still maintain medical exemptions, of course.

While it's absolutely true that the Klan had been founded and supported by the southern wing of the Democratic party, that wing, from then up till the civil rights movement, had represented the right wing of the Democratic party (with the exception of the likes of Huey and Elmer Long, and Jim Garrison, who were closer to genuine liberals). That's why conservative southern Democrats had had no problem becoming Republicans as a reaction to the northern Democrats becoming the party of civil rights, and due to the machinations of Nixon, Reagan, and Bush who had played up on racism in order to draw so many white southerners into the Republican party. Now, it's these white southern conservatives who play the tune to which the Republican party dances to.

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Um, didn't you see my post above?



And ironically, it is the rightists in this thread who are defending the attitude that people are entitled to do as they damn well please no matter how it effects others because that's their gawd-given right.

Seriously, who says I want to ban any of your guns? Oh, yeah, the "usual suspects" say I take that position! Instead of relying on those two, I suggest you get to know me and my actual positions.
And as far as racism is concerned - sure all racism is bad, but racist whites, who are more likely to control political, social, and financial positions in our society, are more likely to hurt more people by the very fact that they wield power than do blacks. Seriously, other than expressing racism with words -which sometimes can manifest into violent acts - what power do most blacks posses that can disenfranchise white voters, or get whites disproportionately convicted for drug crimes that most white users rarely worry about, or even to use police power to harass random whites on the street? Till this can be demonstrated as happening as a result of black racism, I will still say that power comes with white skin that it does not with black skin.

This has the text of the California bill:

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces ... 6055be459c

again wasn't taking about that I was talking about what atleast ann wanted which is a law where they come and take the kids to vaccinate them. how many times do I have to say this.

my cousins were in the way. they didn't believe in vaccines., but guess what they didn't believe any any federal or state thing, which included would you guess what????? public school system. so most who don't' believe in vaccines won't go to public schools anyways. so unless disneyland starts checking vaccine records how is this going solve what happen there.

you've always been in every gun control thread and never on the side defending guns. unlike dox I don't have the patience to go dig through all that s**t to find each and every one of your posts about gun control.

do you or do you not support an assault weapon ban?
if yes then you do support banning my guns. its as simple as that no way around it.

i may be mistaken but I do believe the man who holds the most powerful and most controlling position in our nation is black. blacks and latinos are becoming the majority in with it the races in power. so you just going to wait till they completely get power to address their racism?

my cousin got arrested several times for drugs. wheres his white privilege at?
I am so confused are you black? if not what gives you the right to speak for them. I do think they can speak for themselves. I think you suffer from democrat white guilt.

I refuse to feel guilt for actions of long dead people or people who live over 2k miles away I never meet.
I also refuse to ignore racism toward me by others just cause in the past and in some areas they have it harder.
so guess its totally fine for them to talk about committing white genocide. or going out and killing random white people etc.

If you don't like something, go vote. Did you know the last election, voter turnout was dismal? Exercise your right to vote.
If you don't vote, you don't have a voice and the ones who voice themselves through their vote will influence the election in a biased way.

Who's Ann?

What went wrong in California was that personal belief exemptions became so easy to get and in certain parts of California vaccination rates actually dropped down to about 80%. That is low enough to where so-called herd immunity is affected. Otherwise, vaccination rates would have likewise been normal, making it difficult for diseases to spread because mass vaccination is good at shutting down possible disease vectors, severely limiting the disease when and if it does occur.

But Bill, You, Like me, belong to the Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod. The only Lutherans even further to the right are WELS/ELS. LC-MS, at least those congregations in the Midwest, are pretty close, politically, to the Religious Right. I do remember that Ralph Bohlmann tried to make LC-MS more moderate back in the late 1980's, and was, for all practical purposes, run out of his office by the ultra conservatives within LC-MS and replaced by Alvin Barry, who was ordained by WELS/ELS.

One of the reasons I left ELCA was the ordination of openly gay and lesbian clergy, and the installation of same sex marriage among the clergy and laity, which is clearly prohibited in the Old Testament, and was also opposed by St. Paul, as well as St. Peter. I also objected to the continued demasculization of Scripture, as well as the hymnody and liturgy. Finally, with the ELCA (and, to a lesser extent, LC-MS) abandoning the traditional liturgical forms of worship, I no longer recognized the church I became a member of in 1991, and had been serving since 1977.

I have said before, and will say it again, deviant sexual behaviour is a conscious choice, you are not born to that lifestyle. But does that mean the deviants are to be excluded? Have you never heard the saying "hate the sin, love the sinner?" I would only exclude a deviant if the deliberately continue in the lifestyle. Again, like my grandparents and my parents would say 1) "you made your bed, now lie in it" and 2) "each fox smells it's own hole"

Yes, I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran. And as a matter of fact, I had once met Ralph Bohlmann; I like to think that his take on theology was closer to mine than what is going on in the Synod today. While the Missouri Synod is known for it's conservative stance, it has to be recognized that this conservatism waxes and wanes from place to place; for instance, my own Northwest district is much more moderate than places in the Midwest. And while some people in my home congregation don't always agree with me on social issues, or on matters of science, they know my heart is in the right place, and so tolerate me.

Have you considered that my views might have morphed over time? Dox doesn't seem to think so. Also, I'm much more opposed to the gun fetishist types who think that their gun rights supersede the rights and sensibilities of everyone else. The gun activists I have a problem with are those who could care less about the feelings of the victims of gun violence, or who make insane charges about government false flag operations whenever there's a mass shooting. Plus, the fact that is, if the NRA and GOA ever sided at least once in a while with liberals on social issues, they might actually garner some Democratic support.
As far as the country having a black President is concerned - sure, that's proof of amazing change in our country. But that hardly means that blacks have the same opportunities as whites. Plus, to say that the rabid Anti-Obama rhetoric out there isn't worse than what any other President had ever faced, or that there isn't any racial prejudice behind it, is highly disingenuous.
As for your cousin getting arrested - sure, whites get arrested on drug charges, but not to the extent of blacks - and blacks are a minority that is over represented in prisons. Either blacks are more criminally inclined - which I do not believe - or the justice system is stacked against them.
But really, if you want to know me, get to know me. PM me, and I'll gladly respond. Just please, don't rely on the opinions of others who rub me the wrong way. I do admit, I sometimes have taken the extreme view out of anger, but when hadn't the likes of Raptor done that?