In some ways, Evengelical Christian youth groups are good AS

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jonathandoors
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29 Oct 2006, 10:32 am

It's a strong social support network for Aspies as they accept anyone who believe as they do.

ONly problem is the time spent singing hyms to Jesus, who I do not believe currently exists. During the time I was a believer, I was a part of evengelical christian youth groups and they provided me strong social support. the fact i had a monomanical obsessive interest in bible and christian apologetics (i.e lee strobel's the case for christ) helped me fit in.

i became an atheist as a result of evengelical xian youth groups pressuring me to proseltyze to other high school classmates, some who were atheists, and did not believe, and was taught evolution.

i no longer believe in christianity, and i am not a part of an evengelical christian youth group-bible study and i am

lonely. evangelical xians do invite me to join them but i don't believe. singing to jesus seems like a complete waste of time. i could use the social support though.

i've visited unitarian universalism and secular humanist and atheist groups the problem is

no young attractive women.

evengelical xian youth groups on high school and college campuses

many young attractive women who love jesus! google brittany mccomb. my gawd i want to f**k her!

UU and atheist groups few to none attractive women.



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29 Oct 2006, 11:10 pm

I don't mean to be critical, but it might help the rest of the members of WP to understand you better if you used proper English... or at least English that was a little bit more proper than what you're using.

It sounds like you need a support group. If you check out local support groups, there should be support groups for people with AS or autism at least somewhat near your area. Or you could try to join some sort of organized activity, depending on what your interests are.

Back to the original topic. I've never gone to a church where they have forced people to evangelize or witness to other people. It is a better witness to non-Christians to have someone act like a Christian ought to and really care for others, rather than to try and shove religion down other people's throats. I've met some people who try and cram religion down others' throats, and it is no surprise that people are so turned against Christianity solely because of these types of people.

If you go by what the Bible says, it calls Christians to "be devoted to each other in brotherly love and honor one another before yourselves". A Christian should be able to walk down the street, go grocery shopping and do normal activities and have people notice that there is something different about them. There should be a difference in the way they treat people... with compassion and honesty.

However, Christians aren't perfect people. I've said this before, but not everyone claiming to be Christian actually is a Christian. The actual state of a person's heart is between that person and God, but in America, lots of people go to church "just because" or becuase it is a social custom. There is a quote that I am thinking of that summarizes what a Christian should think and say almost perfectly. The quote goes something like, "All the great religions of this world tell you to love your neighbor as yourself. I'm sorry... I can't do that, but I keep trying, anyways."

(Quote is taken from Mountains Beyond Mountains by Tracy Kidder. It was Dr. Paul Farmer who originally said this quote.)


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30 Oct 2006, 12:49 am

I think the people who are the real Christians, you'd never know it unless you asked them.

There was a girl in my creative writing class my senior year in high school. I thought she was a normal person, just unusually nice. Then one day she wrote a praise poem to God. Turns out she'd become a born again Christian 5 years ago.

President Clinton and his bombing of the aspirin factories was the hot topic. I hated Clinton. Asked her if she did. "I don't judge people. That's for God to do. Every time a person judges another one it creates unhappiness."

Wow.



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31 Oct 2006, 12:21 pm

I think an Aspie support group, provided there are young women present, would be helpful. How do I find one?

I've visted Unitarian churches and quaker churches and atheist societies and there were no young attractive single and looking women present :(

I don't need to be around more geeky-nerdy dudes.



Namiko wrote:
I don't mean to be critical, but it might help the rest of the members of WP to understand you better if you used proper English... or at least English that was a little bit more proper than what you're using.

It sounds like you need a support group. If you check out local support groups, there should be support groups for people with AS or autism at least somewhat near your area. Or you could try to join some sort of organized activity, depending on what your interests are.

Back to the original topic. I've never gone to a church where they have forced people to evangelize or witness to other people. It is a better witness to non-Christians to have someone act like a Christian ought to and really care for others, rather than to try and shove religion down other people's throats. I've met some people who try and cram religion down others' throats, and it is no surprise that people are so turned against Christianity solely because of these types of people.

If you go by what the Bible says, it calls Christians to "be devoted to each other in brotherly love and honor one another before yourselves". A Christian should be able to walk down the street, go grocery shopping and do normal activities and have people notice that there is something different about them. There should be a difference in the way they treat people... with compassion and honesty.

However, Christians aren't perfect people. I've said this before, but not everyone claiming to be Christian actually is a Christian. The actual state of a person's heart is between that person and God, but in America, lots of people go to church "just because" or becuase it is a social custom. There is a quote that I am thinking of that summarizes what a Christian should think and say almost perfectly. The quote goes something like, "All the great religions of this world tell you to love your neighbor as yourself. I'm sorry... I can't do that, but I keep trying, anyways."

(Quote is taken from Mountains Beyond Mountains by Tracy Kidder. It was Dr. Paul Farmer who originally said this quote.)



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01 Nov 2006, 2:24 pm

overall now that i look back i think christianity might do some good in the world, before i had a negative view on it because when i was little i couldn't understand anyof it. wich is why i don't think anyone under the age of 18 should be allowed in churches. now i see christianity like i do any other religion, its just another persons take on god that i've finally learned how to ignore


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01 Nov 2006, 3:01 pm

True, but I still despise the definition of atheist, simply because I see it metaphorically..

Interesting article:


http://www.rotten.com/library/religion/ ... repancies/


I love this guy, the way he writes, very open minded, he doesn't simply "try" to discredit something, he simply writes the facts, which can support both sides... seen as though the old "faith can not be questioned" thing can be shoved in the face of any evidence, science, or proof.


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01 Nov 2006, 3:11 pm

I experienced something similar with evangelicals... they will accept anyone and everyone, no matter how strange/ weird/ eccentric, as long as you espouse the same beliefs. In their own way they are both extraordinarily accepting and xenophobic.

The same could be said of many religious groups.