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iamnotaparakeet
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05 Dec 2012, 8:38 am

If you could be a colonist on another world (within reach of current technology, that would be the Moon, Mars, larger moons of the gas giants, Pluto, Sedna, Ceres, etc, and out of reach of current technology seems to be gas giants for the most part [since they are easier to detect] but perhaps almost any other type of planetary system physically possible), what would your choices be regarding:

1. Planet/satellite/torus/etc (basic home being settled).
Mars
2. Type of government you'd want to be within if you could choose.
A republic or other type of government which historically has worked better than others.
3. Economic situation of the colony.
Capitalistic but with restrictions against monopolies and megacorporations and in favor of workers, but not to a crippling degree.
4. Primary languages of the colony.
English, Spanish, Hebrew, etc.
5. Your personal home arrangement.
I'd want a bunker built like a monolithic dome, but with above ground working spaces for greenhouse agriculture and stargazing.
6. What part you'd care to play within your preferred government, if any.
None, unless helping to design further efforts to build the colony and expand further in the solar system. I would not want a leadership role, but one where I could work.
7. Your preferred career.
I would want to be an engineer.



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05 Dec 2012, 11:18 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you could be a colonist on another world (within reach of current technology, that would be the Moon, Mars, larger moons of the gas giants, Pluto, Sedna, Ceres, etc, and out of reach of current technology seems to be gas giants for the most part [since they are easier to detect] but perhaps almost any other type of planetary system physically possible), what would your choices be regarding:

1. Planet/satellite/torus/etc (basic home being settled).
Mars
2. Type of government you'd want to be within if you could choose.
A republic or other type of government which historically has worked better than others.
3. Economic situation of the colony.
Capitalistic but with restrictions against monopolies and megacorporations and in favor of workers, but not to a crippling degree.
4. Primary languages of the colony.
English, Spanish, Hebrew, etc.
5. Your personal home arrangement.
I'd want a bunker built like a monolithic dome, but with above ground working spaces for greenhouse agriculture and stargazing.
6. What part you'd care to play within your preferred government, if any.
None, unless helping to design further efforts to build the colony and expand further in the solar system. I would not want a leadership role, but one where I could work.
7. Your preferred career.
I would want to be an engineer.


Ask me in a thousand years when we have the technology to genuinely colonize other planets.

If we did have a colony embedded in a very hostile environment then every able person in the community would have to pitch in. We have to see to it that the only able free-riders are newborns and young children. Everyone else must contribute to the survival of the colony else it will surely perish.

I am sure there are several ways in which the above condition and constraint can be met.

ruveyn



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05 Dec 2012, 12:03 pm

ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you could be a colonist on another world (within reach of current technology, that would be the Moon, Mars, larger moons of the gas giants, Pluto, Sedna, Ceres, etc, and out of reach of current technology seems to be gas giants for the most part [since they are easier to detect] but perhaps almost any other type of planetary system physically possible), what would your choices be regarding:

1. Planet/satellite/torus/etc (basic home being settled).
Mars
2. Type of government you'd want to be within if you could choose.
A republic or other type of government which historically has worked better than others.
3. Economic situation of the colony.
Capitalistic but with restrictions against monopolies and megacorporations and in favor of workers, but not to a crippling degree.
4. Primary languages of the colony.
English, Spanish, Hebrew, etc.
5. Your personal home arrangement.
I'd want a bunker built like a monolithic dome, but with above ground working spaces for greenhouse agriculture and stargazing.
6. What part you'd care to play within your preferred government, if any.
None, unless helping to design further efforts to build the colony and expand further in the solar system. I would not want a leadership role, but one where I could work.
7. Your preferred career.
I would want to be an engineer.


Ask me in a thousand years when we have the technology to genuinely colonize other planets.

If we did have a colony embedded in a very hostile environment then every able person in the community would have to pitch in. We have to see to it that the only able free-riders are newborns and young children. Everyone else must contribute to the survival of the colony else it will surely perish.

I am sure there are several ways in which the above condition and constraint can be met.

ruveyn


I think the situation of the hostile external environment would provide a sense of necessity by itself to discourage freeloaders. Welfare bums require a massive state to collect money in exchange for votes anyway, and the frontier isn't the place for a massive state but only the start of habitations. However, as colonies grow into cities and cities grow into states, the frontier unfortunately moves onward. The frontier is where I want to live.



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05 Dec 2012, 12:22 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

I think the situation of the hostile external environment would provide a sense of necessity by itself to discourage freeloaders. Welfare bums require a massive state to collect money in exchange for votes anyway, and the frontier isn't the place for a massive state but only the start of habitations. However, as colonies grow into cities and cities grow into states, the frontier unfortunately moves onward. The frontier is where I want to live.


It may just be that the best way for the Human Race to live is just on the sunny side of destruction. Just a step or two ahead of the Grim Reaper. The pressure would be on to excel and not to engage in superfluous bullsh*t.

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05 Dec 2012, 5:08 pm

FUN FACT: The Amazon rainforest hasn't been totally explored yet.

There are plenty of frontiers left on earth ... if you can cooperate with "primitive" people.


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05 Dec 2012, 5:18 pm

I hear LV-426 is nice



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05 Dec 2012, 5:27 pm

VIDEODROME wrote:
I hear LV-426 is nice


True, if one can cope with the chest pain.