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21 Jul 2015, 6:37 pm

Some kid and his father rigged this drone to automatically fire a handgun!! !

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-firing- ... -scrutiny/

The feds are already all over it!

It's gotten some folks incredibly nervous!



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21 Jul 2015, 6:40 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Some kid and his father rigged this drone to automatically fire a handgun!! !

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-firing- ... -scrutiny/

The feds are already all over it!

It's gotten some folks incredibly nervous!

The "president" does this all the time. Exactly how many innocents has he drone-murdered so far?


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21 Jul 2015, 7:02 pm

There was a recent instance of a bad car accident on a freeway with multiple serious injuries, but the rescue helicopters could not get in because of like four drones hovering over the scene. It will be interesting to see how this all gets sorted.



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21 Jul 2015, 7:36 pm

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There was a recent instance of a bad car accident on a freeway with multiple serious injuries, but the rescue helicopters could not get in because of like four drones hovering over the scene. It will be interesting to see how this all gets sorted.
the easiest option would be signal jammers
AspieUtah wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Some kid and his father rigged this drone to automatically fire a handgun!! !

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-firing- ... -scrutiny/

The feds are already all over it!

It's gotten some folks incredibly nervous!

The "president" does this all the time. Exactly how many innocents has he drone-murdered so far?
0, he's never been in the military.



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21 Jul 2015, 7:41 pm

Fugu wrote:
Marky9 wrote:
There was a recent instance of a bad car accident on a freeway with multiple serious injuries, but the rescue helicopters could not get in because of like four drones hovering over the scene. It will be interesting to see how this all gets sorted.
the easiest option would be signal jammers
AspieUtah wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Some kid and his father rigged this drone to automatically fire a handgun!! !

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-firing- ... -scrutiny/

The feds are already all over it!

It's gotten some folks incredibly nervous!

The "president" does this all the time. Exactly how many innocents has he drone-murdered so far?
0, he's never been in the military.

He is the U.S. Commander in Chief of its military.


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21 Jul 2015, 7:44 pm

my guess is that it's just the first gun drone on youtube



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21 Jul 2015, 7:45 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Some kid and his father rigged this drone to automatically fire a handgun!! !

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-firing- ... -scrutiny/

The feds are already all over it!

It's gotten some folks incredibly nervous!

The "president" does this all the time. Exactly how many innocents has he drone-murdered so far?


I know the military has utilized them during the war on terror but now it's shifting to civilian mom and pop in the back yard with junior rigging up their own gun firing drones which is another kettle of fish entirely.



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21 Jul 2015, 7:49 pm

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He is the U.S. Commander in Chief of its military.
That would be true, if the US was in a war. we're not, so he's not, and it logically follows that since he's not the hand that pulls the trigger(or presses the button?), he's not the person killing innocents.



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21 Jul 2015, 7:51 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I know the military has utilized them during the war on terror but now it's shifting to civilian mom and pop in the back yard with junior rigging up their own gun firing drones which is another kettle of fish entirely.

Equivocation in the face of questioning the number of drone-murdered innocents?


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21 Jul 2015, 7:55 pm

Fugu wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
He is the U.S. Commander in Chief of its military.
That would be true, if the US was in a war. we're not, so he's not....

Nope. Article 2, Section 2, clause 1: "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States...." This authority exists whether war is declared by the Congress or not.


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21 Jul 2015, 8:02 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
Fugu wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
He is the U.S. Commander in Chief of its military.
That would be true, if the US was in a war. we're not, so he's not....

Nope. Article 2, Section 2, clause 1: "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States...." This authority exists whether war is declared by the Congress or not.
It did, up until 1973 when Congress passed the [url]War Powers Resolution[/url] which states:
(c) Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation
The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to
(1) a declaration of war,
(2) specific statutory authorization, or
(3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
He's not the CinC except in War or national emergency.



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21 Jul 2015, 8:13 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I know the military has utilized them during the war on terror but now it's shifting to civilian mom and pop in the back yard with junior rigging up their own gun firing drones which is another kettle of fish entirely.

Equivocation in the face of questioning the number of drone-murdered innocents?



You are going to have to discuss that with the government.



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21 Jul 2015, 8:30 pm

Fugu wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Fugu wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
He is the U.S. Commander in Chief of its military.
That would be true, if the US was in a war. we're not, so he's not....

Nope. Article 2, Section 2, clause 1: "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States...." This authority exists whether war is declared by the Congress or not.
It did, up until 1973 when Congress passed the [url]War Powers Resolution[/url] which states:
(c) Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation
The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to
(1) a declaration of war,
(2) specific statutory authorization, or
(3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
He's not the CinC except in War or national emergency.


Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists, 2001



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21 Jul 2015, 9:59 pm

blauSamstag wrote:
Fugu wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
Fugu wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
He is the U.S. Commander in Chief of its military.
That would be true, if the US was in a war. we're not, so he's not....

Nope. Article 2, Section 2, clause 1: "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States...." This authority exists whether war is declared by the Congress or not.
It did, up until 1973 when Congress passed the [url]War Powers Resolution[/url] which states:
(c) Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation
The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to
(1) a declaration of war,
(2) specific statutory authorization, or
(3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.
He's not the CinC except in War or national emergency.


Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists, 2001
ah. in that case, the number of civilians killed under Obama's leadership would be [url=Drone_strikes_in_Pakistan]157[/url] in Pakistan from 2009-2013. over the same period, 2009 terrorists were killed by drone strikes. compare this with 129 civilians and 282 terrorists for the period 2004-2008, before Obama was elected. not very pleasant any way you slice it :/



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22 Jul 2015, 7:34 am

Fugu wrote:
...it logically follows that since he's not the hand that pulls the trigger(or presses the button?), he's not the person killing innocents.


Ah, I vaz only giving ze orders...



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22 Jul 2015, 8:37 am

Magneto wrote:
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...it logically follows that since he's not the hand that pulls the trigger(or presses the button?), he's not the person killing innocents.

Ah, I vaz only giving ze orders...

Indeed. According to Nuremberg Principle IV, "[t]he fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg ... inciple_IV ).


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