Explosion of Atheism and People Leaving Islam

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03 Mar 2017, 5:19 am



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03 Mar 2017, 9:36 am

Part of it is because Islam has acquired a "bad name" through their fanatical sects.



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03 Mar 2017, 11:22 am

Lebanese Christian churches have seen a surge in Syrians wishing to convert. They aren't entirely sure whether to be happy or concerned, so they are asking tough questions before accepting them.


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03 Mar 2017, 5:19 pm

You do hear about hints of Islam in the Middle East secretly loosing adherents (both to atheism, and to non Islamic faiths). Supposedly there is an underground swell of folks in Iran converting to Evangelical Protestant Christianity via the net, or otherwise. Also rumors of other Iranians reverting to the preIslamic Zoroastrianism of their ancestors.Dont know how seriously to take rumors like that.



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04 Mar 2017, 6:32 am

^It's becoming visible - I suspect even my brother converted to Christianity.



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04 Mar 2017, 8:01 am

Yeah my friends not Muslim anymore, I did wonder why but I guess it's similar to this. He like quit it all then got a Japanese gf, got even more into metal, delved into black metal even then moved to Australia for a few months and just like, enjoyed his life without any religion. He's like such a different person now it's weird af.


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04 Mar 2017, 8:26 am

I think it makes sense to reevaluate your faith based on what others are doing with it and oppressive doctrine of course, Islam does not seem compatible with secularism.

I read some time ago that Zoroastrianism had become very popular with Kurdish youth, I've also seen a mention of some Syrian refugees converting to Christianity upon arriving in Europe, do not hear much about atheism. Would be interested about number figures.



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04 Mar 2017, 6:19 pm

Jacoby wrote:
I think it makes sense to reevaluate your faith based on what others are doing with it and oppressive doctrine of course, Islam does not seem compatible with secularism.

I read some time ago that Zoroastrianism had become very popular with Kurdish youth, I've also seen a mention of some Syrian refugees converting to Christianity upon arriving in Europe, do not hear much about atheism. Would be interested about number figures.


I think Zoroastrianism's popularity among Kurdish youth comes from national sentiments.....after all, it is originally a Kurdish religion while Islam is an Arabic religion.



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07 Mar 2017, 12:34 pm

I think instead of leaving a problematic religion, it would be more constructive to try and fix the religion's problems from within.

Similar to being on a sinking ship: Is it more noble to jump overboard and save yourself, or stay aboard and help with the repairs?

I was raised in a non-religious household, so I guess my perspectives here are quite different. I think being born into a religion would be a gift; it's not a gift I would quickly discard.



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07 Mar 2017, 1:16 pm

MushroomPrincess wrote:
I think instead of leaving a problematic religion, it would be more constructive to try and fix the religion's problems from within.

Similar to being on a sinking ship: Is it more noble to jump overboard and save yourself, or stay aboard and help with the repairs?

I was raised in a non-religious household, so I guess my perspectives here are quite different. I think being born into a religion would be a gift; it's not a gift I would quickly discard.

I found it other than a gift. I consider it abusive to subject children to threats of eternal torture, especially for engaging in inevitable human behavior.


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07 Mar 2017, 2:42 pm

The first thing I thought-of when I read this, was that it's possible that some of them are coming-from another angle----at least, the people who aren't already in the U.S.----that they want to learn Christianity in case President Trump actually enforces his "Christianity Test" that he reportedly suggested.











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07 Mar 2017, 7:31 pm

Cool, join the atheist party. No cookies sorry we don't need them. I wish people converting the best.



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07 Mar 2017, 7:35 pm

MushroomPrincess wrote:
Similar to being on a sinking ship: Is it more noble to jump overboard and save yourself, or stay aboard and help with the repairs?

You're assuming that all ships are worth saving.



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07 Mar 2017, 10:51 pm

I know Sam Harris's inbox has been filling with emails from people in the Middle East, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, asking him advice on what they can do within their own cultures to make any impact on the ideological situation they find themselves surrounded by. Seems like a lot of people have been 'switching on' but like the people in the movie Equilibrium they had to pretend they're still taking their meds so the clerics don't come for them.


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08 Mar 2017, 12:18 pm

Barchan wrote:
You're assuming that all ships are worth saving.

I think they are.

But I'm a mermaid, I never needed a ship 8)