Australia's use of neck chains on Indigenous people.

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07 Mar 2021, 11:40 am

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^ Indigenous Australians in neck chains. Historical records say they had been chained after killing an animal.
Neck chains were used by police across Western Australia from the 1880s to the late 1950s.  Photograph: State Library of Western Australia.

When the world found out about their history of use in 1905, neck chains were banned.  But they were reinstated just a year later and used for another 52 years.  Neck chains were still being used on Aboriginal people in Australia in 1958.

Hundreds of Aboriginal people were chained for alleged cattle theft, and marched out of their country, some for up to 400km. Each neck piece weighed 2.4kg (5.3 lbs.).  At times they were chained to a ring in the floor.

The system of punitive control of Aboriginal people was ingrained and revealed in other episodes in 1953 and 1954. This account was taken from the State Records Office of Western Australia:

In May 1953 at Moola Bulla station, a government-run pastoral station that included a school for Aboriginal children, an 11-year-old boy reported that schoolmaster Robert Johnson told the children they had been “playing around too much” so Johnson put them in neck chains in a standing position. These remained on for hours until one of the children’s fathers came along, went “wild” and demanded their removal. The witness revealed this was not an isolated event: he had seen three other boys, one nine years old and the other two only six, also neck chained.

The intent of this barbaric punishment was clear: misbehave and you too, like your parents and grandparents, will end up on the chain.

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 This Guardian article, dated 2021-03-07 


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08 Mar 2021, 8:57 am

This is neither news nor a current event - but it's still worthy of discussion.
Moved from News and Current Events to PPR.


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08 Mar 2021, 9:28 am

Thank you.

Since this is now a PP&R thread, anyone can now freely speculate on the possibility that China's current treatment of Keswick Island residents is some kind of cosmic retribution or "karma" against Australia's white government for the way it treated the aborigines.


 Link to article in The News 


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08 Mar 2021, 10:51 am

Fnord wrote:
Thank you.

Since this is now a PP&R thread, anyone can now freely speculate on the possibility that China's current treatment of Keswick Island residents is some kind of cosmic retribution or "karma" against Australia's white government for the way it treated the aborigines.


 Link to article in The News 


I agree.



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08 Mar 2021, 3:41 pm

I'm afraid this is one rabbit hole not many dare to enter



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08 Mar 2021, 4:19 pm

cyberdad wrote:
I'm afraid this is one rabbit hole not many dare to enter.
It is only a single glimpse into the dark side of Australia's history.


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08 Mar 2021, 4:47 pm

Fnord wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I'm afraid this is one rabbit hole not many dare to enter.
It is only a single glimpse into the dark side of Australia's history.


Are you suggesting most other countries don't have a dark history?



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08 Mar 2021, 5:00 pm

Fnord wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I'm afraid this is one rabbit hole not many dare to enter.
It is only a single glimpse into the dark side of Australia's history.


One that was carefully hidden. One of the topics in our "history wars" fought between progressives wanting this to be taught in the education system and conservatives wanting to sweep it all under the carpet.

There is much much worse but I'll leave that to the OP to decide what is relevant.



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08 Mar 2021, 5:13 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Fnord wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I'm afraid this is one rabbit hole not many dare to enter.
It is only a single glimpse into the dark side of Australia's history.
One that was carefully hidden. One of the topics in our "history wars" fought between progressives wanting this to be taught in the education system and conservatives wanting to sweep it all under the carpet.  There is much much worse but I'll leave that to the OP to decide what is relevant.
Trust me ... the OP is doing just that.


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08 Mar 2021, 5:21 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Fnord wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I'm afraid this is one rabbit hole not many dare to enter.
It is only a single glimpse into the dark side of Australia's history.


One that was carefully hidden. One of the topics in our "history wars" fought between progressives wanting this to be taught in the education system and conservatives wanting to sweep it all under the carpet.

There is much much worse but I'll leave that to the OP to decide what is relevant.


As someone who values the Truth, I wish you would expand on that. 8)



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08 Mar 2021, 5:22 pm

Fnord wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Fnord wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I'm afraid this is one rabbit hole not many dare to enter.
It is only a single glimpse into the dark side of Australia's history.
One that was carefully hidden. One of the topics in our "history wars" fought between progressives wanting this to be taught in the education system and conservatives wanting to sweep it all under the carpet.  There is much much worse but I'll leave that to the OP to decide what is relevant.
Trust me ... the OP is doing just that.


Good to hear. 8)



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08 Mar 2021, 9:33 pm

Let's pause for some entertainment.


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08 Mar 2021, 11:40 pm

Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Fnord wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I'm afraid this is one rabbit hole not many dare to enter.
It is only a single glimpse into the dark side of Australia's history.


One that was carefully hidden. One of the topics in our "history wars" fought between progressives wanting this to be taught in the education system and conservatives wanting to sweep it all under the carpet.

There is much much worse but I'll leave that to the OP to decide what is relevant.


As someone who values the Truth, I wish you would expand on that. 8)


Why pepe? what happened to aboriginal is quite distastful and close to home given this is the country we live in. While I feel sorry for African Americans, the distance both geographic and historically means it has less of a direct impact.



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08 Mar 2021, 11:44 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Fnord wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
I'm afraid this is one rabbit hole not many dare to enter.
It is only a single glimpse into the dark side of Australia's history.


One that was carefully hidden. One of the topics in our "history wars" fought between progressives wanting this to be taught in the education system and conservatives wanting to sweep it all under the carpet.

There is much much worse but I'll leave that to the OP to decide what is relevant.


As someone who values the Truth, I wish you would expand on that. 8)


Why pepe? what happened to aboriginal is quite distastful and close to home given this is the country we live in. While I feel sorry for African Americans, the distance both geographic and historically means it has less of a direct impact.


As I said, I am interested in the Truth. 8)



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09 Mar 2021, 2:56 am

and?



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09 Mar 2021, 3:05 am

cyberdad wrote:
and?


I was under the impression you know more about this subject than me.
TeachFeed me. 8)